~2021 MLB Thread~

[OrangeAfroMan]

I'm in the middle of Piute country, and they call themselves "Indians."

There is a HS on Navajo Nation called the "Redskins."

Just a bunch of woke Whites being offended on behalf of others who aren't.

Raise your hand if you've been the announcer and only white guy in the joint for a game involving that Redskins team. 

[CWSooner]

My post had nothing to do with what is or was offensive.  It's simply incorrect.  CW, your post is proving that languages are different, and the phrase "got history on its side" is what I'm talking about.  Having history on one's side is an excuse to excuse stupidity.

There's nothing inherently offensive about "Indians," it was just factually incorrect.  Perpetuating it for no other reason than it's got history on its side is perpetuating ignorance. 
What would I replace it with?  Simply a correct moniker:  natives.
The people who Europeans largely killed and replaced were natives.  Done.
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As for naming sports teams after Natives or Indians or any of it, BB was right - they don't care, it's a white-people-being-outraged-for-them thing.  And for those who argue it's not, I have firsthand knowledge about modern-day tribal leaders:  they're all old men who grew up on a patch of dirt and now have power, influence, and access to tens of millions of dollars.  Yes, that's correct, they're corrupt.  Nearly 100% of the time.  So what they say shouldn't mean much to anyone - whether they're giving their blessing or feigning outrage.
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CW, that being said, an old white guy did come up with every sports team name.  Maybe that's why ND or Celtics fans don't take issue with it.  Their names were FUBU: for us, by us.  Indians wasn't.  Hell, Jim Thorpe's college was called the Indians because it was literal.  It wasn't a mascot thing it was informational.
I'll bet you a dollar that's how it started out and it became so common that "Indians" became largely generic over time.....by the people who name sports teams, not by the literal Indians attending those schools (because they had to). 
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As with most everything that possibly offends, yes, forbidding it may be silly, but so is passionately holding onto it for no better reason than "history on its side."

FWIW, the "history" I was describing was the historical use of the name to describe the people, not the history of the team names.

[Hawkinole]

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As for naming sports teams after Natives or Indians or any of it, . . .

As I prepared to select my 1st jury in Delaware County, Iowa, I commented to my then secretary, after reading the juror questionnaire responses, and who is extremely high in social intelligence, "I didn't know we had 35% native Americans in Delaware County." She responded, "We don't, we have a lot of stupid people."

[ELA]

https://twitter.com/OddPittsburgh/status/1432468205386272775?s=19

[MarqHusker]

Honus, Harvey Kuehn, Sparky Anderson, Phil Niekro,not alone in looking much older than their years indicated but kind of amazing to see.

[MarqHusker]

52 year old Harvey Kuehn

[MarqHusker]

41 year old Sparky Anderson.

[MarqHusker]

45 year old Phil Niekro

[ELA]

41 year old Sparky Anderson.

Sparky is younger there than Tom Brady is now

[FearlessF]

Viagra wasn't a thing back then 

[FearlessF]

SHO STEALS HOME!

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[MrNubbz]

Well went downtown to the last home game the Cleveland Indians will ever play.The Indians won their final home game, beating the Kansas City Royals 8-3 to close a run that started in 1915.Before that they were the Spiders since 1901 but changed the name to Indians to honor some good players that indeed  were .As sad example of PC doing the exact opposite.When ''Take Me Out to The Ballgame'' was played during the seventh-inning stretch, Cleveland fans shouted ''root, root, root for the Indians!'' as if to send a message.Cleveland won two World Series (1920 and 1948) as the Indians, and came close to winning it all in 1995, 1997 and 2016 only to twice lose in heartbreaking fashion. Now, baseball's longest current title drought carries on under a new name.I also attended the last Indians home game at old Municipal Stadium where they had played since 1930.Don't  go down to the new digs much because of the price gouging for instance a 9.50 Miller Lite.That was the cheapest suds in the line up.On the bright side it was 16 oz and I've upped my record to 5-0 at Jacobs/Progressive Field.As Clevelander Bob Hope once sang - "Thanks for Memories",had a lot of fun times at the old ball game coutesy of the Tribe

On a side note Bradley Zimmer's solo shot off his brother Kyle was just the fourth time since 1900 that a brother has homered off his brother. The others were: Joe Niekro off Phil in 1976; Rick Ferrell off Wes in 1933; and George Stovall off Jesse in 1904.

[ELA]

Working outside, and listening to Cards-Brewers on the MLB app.  Man, Mike Shannon sounds like he is barely awake.  I'm all for the legends going out on their own terms, but this is rough.

[MarqHusker]

He's as cringe worthy as Hawk Harrelson ever was.