~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~

[847badgerfan]

Why is Marquette still dragging DePaul around with them? Travel partner? Chicago market?

Get Loyola on board instead...

[Brutus Buckeye]

Marquette played Cincy pretty well on the later half of Higgins stint at UC, as Marquette and Luvl were the only two schools to win a outright CUSA title other than Cincy, during Huggins' reign.   They had some great tussles.  

Before that though, he had his way, looks like he was 19-11 during his tenure at UC.  I remember when UC was #1 at the Bradley Center, and Brian Wardle scored all 24 Marquette points in the 1st half.    

Yeah, Dwyane Wade was a pretty good player. 
CUSA did indeed get pretty beastly once a few of the teams caught up with the Bearcats.
Loiusville, Marquette, Memphis and, to a lesser degree, Charlotte all got it going in the early 20-ots. 

I remember going to a Cincy game around that time where one of their players (Steve Logan) outscored Southern Miss 41-39. UC won the game 85-39. 

[MarqHusker]

Talking to the wrong guy Badge.   I'd support another Jesuit school (Loyola)  over DePaul everyday of the week.

I bet few realize, DePaul (the City built this sucker) moved to a new 10,000 seat arena (no longer out at O'Hare at Rosemont), attached to McCormick Conv Ctr., and their attendance went down even further.   I've heard very little positive about the arena.  Mainly a giant PIA for fans to get to, students still don't care, despite being closer to Lincoln Park.

[Kris61]

I’ve picked plenty of bad tournaments but this one takes the cake.  Three FF teams eliminated before the Sweet 16 is a first.  Only having 6 of the Sweet 16 teams right is a first.

[MaximumSam]

Steve Logan had some game

[medinabuckeye1]

Is it better now?  A friend of mine who graduated HS in 1994 went to UC and only stayed for about three days.  He left because the dorm they put him in was in such an awful neighborhood that he just wanted out.  

[847badgerfan]

Talking to the wrong guy Badge.   I'd support another Jesuit school (Loyola)  over DePaul everyday of the week.

I bet few realize, DePaul (the City built this sucker) moved to a new 10,000 seat arena (no longer out at O'Hare at Rosemont), attached to McCormick Conv Ctr., and their attendance went down even further.   I've heard very little positive about the arena.  Mainly a giant PIA for fans to get to, students still don't care, despite being closer to Lincoln Park.

Yeah, so.. McCormick Place. 

I can't even get started on what a bad idea an arena there was. Now that it's open, people are already wishing it was closed.

It could turn out to be the Rahmfather's albatross, among many other opportunities he has for that purpose.

as of today, there are two "concerts" scheduled, and a bunch of WNBA games. Not gonna move any meters with those, not to mention DePaul games.

They should have just fixed up Alumni Hall and been done with it.

[Brutus Buckeye]

Is it better now?  A friend of mine who graduated HS in 1994 went to UC and only stayed for about three days.  He left because the dorm they put him in was in such an awful neighborhood that he just wanted out.  

Yeah, I had a similar experience in 98. I stuck it out for the quarter though, and then transferred to OSU over Christmas break. While OSU isn't exactly in the greatest neighborhood, it might as well have been Beverly Hills compared to Clifton. 
But yes, it is quite a bit better now. I had a family friend go there in 2005, and the area around the campus had been completely torn down and rebuilt from the ground up. It was all new and nice. At the time it was sorta lipstick on a pig, as all it did was push the hood back a couple of blocks, but then good ole gentrification has since transformed Over the Rhine and Cliffton into a halfway decent community. 
Back in the nineties though, it might as well have been a demilitarized zone. 
Where's Cincydawg when you need him? 

[PSUinNC]

Excited to see PSU getting some quality road wins in the NIT if nothing else.  Dominated ND at their place, and played Marquette very well last night and actually defended the 3 for once very well.  Were without two of their top 7 guys too (Watkins out for season, Bostick suspended for past two games).  Nice to see guys like Harrar getting some good experience and extra practice time.

If Carr is smart and comes back (he's not NBA ready and could be a first rounder with another year under his belt), PSU is priming for a nice run next year.  

[ELA]

I'm seeing Carr as a borderline 1st rounder this year.

[medinabuckeye1]

Excited to see PSU getting some quality road wins in the NIT if nothing else.  Dominated ND at their place, and played Marquette very well last night and actually defended the 3 for once very well.  Were without two of their top 7 guys too (Watkins out for season, Bostick suspended for past two games).  Nice to see guys like Harrar getting some good experience and extra practice time.

If Carr is smart and comes back (he's not NBA ready and could be a first rounder with another year under his belt), PSU is priming for a nice run next year.  

I'm rooting for PSU to win the NIT. I always root for major conference teams in the NIT because small conference fans seem to be convinced that they get screwed in the NCAA when, in fact, the opposite is true.  Typically the NIT is won by a major conference team:

• 2017:  TCU
• 2016:  George Washington
• 2015:  Stanford
• 2014:  Minnesota
• 2013:  Baylor
• 2012:  Stanford
• 2011:  Wichita State
• 2010:  Dayton
• 2009:  Penn State
• 2008:  Ohio State
• 2007:  WVU
• 2006:  USCe
• 2005:  USCe
• 2004:  Michigan
• 2003:  St. Johns, subsequently vacated, Georgetown was runner-up
• 2002:  Memphis
• 2001:  Tulsa
• 2000:  Wake
• 1999:  Cal
• 1998:  Minnesota, subsequently vacated, Penn State was runner-up

Note that over the past 20 years the NIT winner has usually come from a major conference.  

[ELA]

I don't really find that as evidence of anything.  Just like VCU making the Final 4 in 2011 didn't prove they were deserving of a bid.

[medinabuckeye1]

I don't really find that as evidence of anything.  Just like VCU making the Final 4 in 2011 didn't prove they were deserving of a bid.

I disagree based on volume.  
I agree with you that once doesn't prove much or anything but I believe that is because one is too small of a sample size.  Thus, I believe that the fact that Minnesota won the NIT in 2014 does NOT "prove" that Minnesota was the best team left out of the NCAA.  However, looking at 20 years I think there is reasonable evidence that the best team left out is typically a major conference school because major conference schools typically win the NIT.  

[TyphonInc]

I’ve picked plenty of bad tournaments but this one takes the cake.  Three FF teams eliminated before the Sweet 16 is a first.  Only having 6 of the Sweet 16 teams right is a first.

My wife and I only have 4 teams left in our brackets.