~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~

[mcwterps1]

Wow!

The hosing is in full force in Bloomington. 

[TyphonInc]

Nebby looking pretty good. only down 2 at half.

[mcwterps1]

SMH 

Clean game up until the last 8 minutes. 

Smooth home cooking. 

I cringe every time I see Eades anymore. 

What a joke of a game at the end. Cowan was hammered all game,  got no calls. 

NIT

[bayareabadger]

Where did I indicate that I badly wanted one?

I want OSU to win real Trophies; the kind you get for winning Bowl Games, NCs, Big Ten Titles, B1G East Titles, rivalry games, maybe a Heisman Trophy here and there.

Let everyone else fight over the COTY consolation prize.

If you're mad you can't get one, you want one. Or you want to be mad about it. Which is not great either. (I kinda want to do a study of which years OSU had a case, but that'll probably further sidetrack this)

[bayareabadger]

On this actual topic, for a second, it sounded as if D'Mitrik Trice might return to the court soon. It now appears that's not the case. 

And as such, UW's mess of a year will go on. The Badgers long had a rep as developers, turning fine players into good ones, or at least system ones. At this point, UW has five scholarship juniors. Only one is better than an inconsistent role player. One is an inconsistent role player, the other three are not in the lineup. There are no scholarship seniors. Hope the six underclassmen can take some kind of jump.

[mcwterps1]

Whoever made these schedules should be fired. 

I knew at the start of the year this would hurt continuity and confidence. 

It's great for the really good, experienced teams, but horrible for young teams. 

[ELA]

I said jokingly that against Illinois' defensive style MSU might shoot 65% but have 25 turnovers....

Well at the first media timeout they are 4-4 from the floor with 4 turnovers, so...

[ELA]

I said jokingly that against Illinois' defensive style MSU might shoot 65% but have 25 turnovers....

Well at the first media timeout they are 4-4 from the floor with 4 turnovers, so...

9-10 with 8 turnovers at the 10 minute mark.  Illinois' has zero team rebounds.  Every MSU possession has ended with a basket or a TO.

[Brutus Buckeye]

If you're mad you can't get one, you want one. Or you want to be mad about it. Which is not great either. (I kinda want to do a study of which years OSU had a case, but that'll probably further sidetrack this)

Mocking the trophy and wanting the trophy are two different things. 
It would never happen for a multitude of reasons, but I personally would love to see an OSU FB coach decline the award.

[ELA]

When/if Underwood fills this roster, Illinois' is going to be a royal pain in the ass to play.  They already are not your typical last place team.

[Brutus Buckeye]

OSU remains undefeated in Big Ten play, tied... er, since Purdue has a bye-half-week, sitting alone atop the Big Ten standings.

[ELA]

Another thing that just occurred to me about college teams not doing 2 for 1s is the clock running in the first half.  MSU made a shot with about 36 seconds left, then it took Illinois like 4 seconds to gather the ball for an in bounds, then the did a roll the ball throw in, and by the time he actually picked up the ball, it was under 30, and shot clock off.

[boilerbanger]

well ELA ... at half your prediction is holding, they are actually shooting better, but with more turnovers than predicted

[bayareabadger]

FWIW:  On the Ohio State boards, a LOT of tOSU fans get salty about the fact that it has been nearly 40 years since our coach has won COTY in spite of the fact that our team has been clearly the best in the league over that stretch.  This complaint makes some intuitive sense.  If Ohio State has had the best program over the past 40 years then it stands to reason that our program has had the best coach at least a few times in that span.  
I've always responded by explaining that our coach never wins COTY in football because the award is really the "Coach of the team that most exceeded expectations" award and expectations are so high for tOSU football that it is essentially impossible for our coach to win that award.  That doesn't satisfy everyone, but I think most over there accept it.  
I can tell you that if Painter wins COTY there will be a slew of infuriated Ohio State fans who will point out that our football coach never wins COTY due to high expectations and the same should apply in Basketball.  
I don't care too much about the award per-se, but I do care about the principle.  In football the Ohio State coach has not won COTY due to high expectations and the same should apply in BB.  Barring a stupendous collapse the B1G COTY should be Holtmann.

So this was interesting actually. I built a big post looking at every year for OSU, if they had COY-worthy seasons, why they didn't win. 
And the end result was kinda weird. I honestly don't know if an OSU fan would argue in favor of their coach from 1980 to 2001. Maybe they'd want the award after what seems like an unsatisfying year. I dunno. In the Tress era, there's about four years where it could've been warranted, each knocked out by a narrative that ranged from much better to mildly better. Urbs had three, though 2014 has some cloudiness to it because of timing.