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Topic: Your vote for Hypesman?

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #84 on: January 06, 2021, 10:15:42 PM »
I meant the Heisman. Usually they hand it out before the bowl games.
Oh, that's just this year, because of the delayed finish of the season.  The results were finalized before the bowls, anyway.
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« Reply #85 on: January 07, 2021, 09:31:16 AM »
How much fun would that have been to settle in and watch those games?
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #86 on: January 07, 2021, 11:32:35 AM »
Loved the names of yore,Butkus,Nietzsche,Sayers,Ditka,Unitas,Deacon Jones,Claude Humphrey,Tombstone Jackson,Buck Buchanon,Curly Culp,Slinging Sammy Baugh,Otis taylor,Sonny Jurgenson,Floyd Little,Conrad Dobler,Bubba Smith,Don Nottingham,Rosey Grier,Merlin Olsen,Walt Garrison,Hacksaw Reynolds,Mad Stork Hendricks,Otis Sistrunk,Lem Barney,Night Train Lane,Mike lanier,John Hadl,Forest Gregg,Jim ringo,Boyd Dowler,Gino Marchetti,Gene Hickerson,Lombardi,Otto Graham....you get the point
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #87 on: January 07, 2021, 11:53:46 AM »
Ha Ha Dix -  just doesn't sound right
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #88 on: January 07, 2021, 12:19:32 PM »
You don't have to tell me it's big, but you don't have to laugh at it, either!
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« Reply #89 on: January 07, 2021, 12:24:07 PM »
Here's some names, just from recruits:
Chubba Purdy
Navy Shuler
Gavin Beerup
Tank Bigsby
Jay'Veon Sunday
Ajou Ajou
Money Parks
T.J. Tampa
Mookie Cooper
Wing Green
Sedrick Van Pran
Tonka Hemmingway
Jay Max Jacobsen
Prince Darboh
Moon Ashby
Major Burns
Cody Stufflebean
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #90 on: January 07, 2021, 01:03:11 PM »
well, undefeated Nebraska lost to #4 Bama in the Orange


The stage had been set for all the national marbles. No. 1 Michigan State had been upset by UCLA and No. 2 Arkansas had been upset by LSU, leaving No. 3 Nebraska as the only unbeaten power.

When the firing stopped, the Cornhuskers had become the third unbeaten team of the day to fall, and Alabama was able to jump from its pre-game No. 4 ranking to a second straight national title.

And Bama's loss to Texas in the Orange Bowl after the 1964 season is the reason they waited until after the bowls in 1965. :)

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #91 on: January 07, 2021, 01:34:26 PM »
1954 was interesting, when it came to the RB.
USC was looking good at #7 and 8-1 and (I guess) garnered an invite to the Rose Bowl.  But the Trojans were facing undefeated, #2 UCLA and got stomped.  They then lost to ND. 

So an 8-3, 17th-ranked USC played in the Rose Bowl vs Ohio State, while 9-0, #2-ranked UCLA sat home. 
*now, the Pac-8 could have had a no-repeat rule like the B1G did, but idk....even if it did, how do you pass up a 1 vs 2 matchup!?!?!

Ohio State beat the now 8-4 Trojans and won the NC, ahead of UCLA.  What's messed up is that UCLA was #1 for 2 weeks late in the season, but fell back to #2, after destroying Oregon.  The Bruins allowed a total of 6 points in their final 5 games.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #92 on: January 07, 2021, 01:55:58 PM »
Down-ballot Heisman voting is a fun (crazy) study:
Going back to 1980 to now.....
1980:More people thought QB Neil Lomax of Portland State should win the Heisman than did Anthony Carter and Kenny Easley COMBINED.
1981:  3 people thought RB Rich Diana of Yale should win it over Marcus Allen or Herschel Walker, while rushing for fewer carries, yards, ypc, and TDs (vs Yale's schedule)
1982:  Dan Marino got 1 first-place vote in a season he threw 17 TDs and 23 INTs......also, Anthony Carter had his best Heisman showing (4th) in perhaps his worst season as a starter
1983:  Out of about 700 voters, only 6 thought the 'best' OL should win the Heisman (Fralic).  Only 7 thought the award should go to the 'best' DB (Hoage)
1984:  Fralic must have fallen off, as his support to win the Heisman fell to 1 single voter.
1985:  Sports Illustrated put their pseudo ballot on its cover, advocating for RB Joe Dudek of Plymouth State over Bo Jackson or Chuck Long.  Dudek would finish 9th, with 12 first-place votes (11 more than Thurman Thomas).
1986:  Three LBs appear in the top 10 of voting!  WTF??  9 thought Bosworth should win the Heisman, 3 chose Cornelius Bennett, and 5 picked Spielman....Auburn RB Brent Fullwood finished with just 4 first-place votes after a 1400 yard season @ 8.3 ypc, probably because he wasn't Bo.
1987:  The only FR player to finish in the top 10 since Herschel, Florida RB Emmitt Smith gets 2 first-place votes.
1988:  The news here isn't that Okie State RB Barry Sanders won, it's that 156 voters thought someone else should have won it over him....Alabama LB Derrick Thomas gets 3 first-place votes for a season with 27 sacks (unofficially)...and FSU CB Deion Sanders received zero first-place votes.
1989:  72 voters wanted to give ND QB Tony Rice the Heisman for a 2 TD pass, 9 INT season....MSU LB Percy Snow had 7 first-place votes, 4 more than ND WR Raghib Ismail, who did not have a single receiving TD, yet finished 10th in the voting.
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That's a lot for now, I can do another decade if anyone cares to read it. 

1989:  72 voters wanted to give ND QB Tony Rice the Heisman for a 2 TD pass, 9 INT season...


Why not? In 1956, they gave Paul Hornung the Heisman for a 3 TD pass, 13 INT season playing for a 2-8 ND team.

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #93 on: January 07, 2021, 02:07:58 PM »
1989:  72 voters wanted to give ND QB Tony Rice the Heisman for a 2 TD pass, 9 INT season...


Why not? In 1956, they gave Paul Hornung the Heisman for a 3 TD pass, 13 INT season playing for a 2-8 ND team.
Yup, anyone that thinks the Heisman is just now a ridiculously subjective and biased joke, doesn't really know the history of the Heisman.

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #94 on: January 07, 2021, 02:40:29 PM »
Word,believe Hornung won out(bad description) over Jim Brown.How Brown never got that award is beyond reason,unless of course they were factoring in character flaws - but those came later.And Hornung never saw a game he wouldn't bet on
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #95 on: January 07, 2021, 02:48:42 PM »
1954 was interesting, when it came to the RB.
USC was looking good at #7 and 8-1 and (I guess) garnered an invite to the Rose Bowl.  But the Trojans were facing undefeated, #2 UCLA and got stomped.  They then lost to ND. 

So an 8-3, 17th-ranked USC played in the Rose Bowl vs Ohio State, while 9-0, #2-ranked UCLA sat home. 
*now, the Pac-8 could have had a no-repeat rule like the B1G did, but idk....even if it did, how do you pass up a 1 vs 2 matchup!?!?!

Ohio State beat the now 8-4 Trojans and won the NC, ahead of UCLA.  What's messed up is that UCLA was #1 for 2 weeks late in the season, but fell back to #2, after destroying Oregon.  The Bruins allowed a total of 6 points in their final 5 games.
smells like politics
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #96 on: January 07, 2021, 03:11:43 PM »
Re Heisman names, Mike Gundy (full-time mullet-head and part-time FoSu HFC) has his son on the team as #3 (I think) QB.  Kid's name: Gunner Gundy.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #97 on: January 07, 2021, 07:08:56 PM »
He came out of the womb in full camo.....
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