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Topic: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game

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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2019, 06:40:39 PM »
QB (1) -
RB (4) -
WR/TE (6) -
K -
P -
KR -
PR -

Pass Rushers (2-4, sacks only) -
Pass Defenders (2-4, INTs only) -
WVU
QB- Major Harris
RB- Steve Slaton, Amos Zereoue, Avon Cobourne, Noel Devine
WR- Tavon Austin, Stedman Bailey, Shawn Foreman, David Saunders, Kevin White, Chris Henry
K- Paul Woodside
P- Todd Sauerbrun
KR- Darius Reynaud
PR- Willie Drewery
Pass Rushers- Bruce Irvin, Canute Curtis, Renaldo Turnbull
DB- Aaron Beasley, Pac Man Jones, Steve Newberry, Mike Logan

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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2019, 07:16:49 PM »
I guess Zeke Bratkowski is out as my punter.  He was a good one though.  He also played another position.

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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2019, 10:11:51 PM »
Oklahoma

QB (1) - Baker Mayfield
RB (4) - Billy Sims, Adrian Peterson, Greg Pruitt, Samaje Perine
WR/TE (6) - Ryan Broyles, Sterling Shepard, Mark Clayton, Juaquin Iglesias, Keith Jackson, Germaine Gresham
K - Austin Seibert
P - Tress Way
KR - DeMarco Murray
PR - Antonio Perkins
Pass Rushers (2-4, sacks only) - Cedric Jones, Jeremy Beal, Eric Striker
Pass Defenders (2-4, INTs only) - Rickey Dixon, Zack Sanchez, Darrol Ray
Thanks.
See how easy it is?
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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2019, 10:12:57 PM »
WVU
QB- Major Harris
RB- Steve Slaton, Amos Zereoue, Avon Cobourne, Noel Devine
WR- Tavon Austin, Stedman Bailey, Shawn Foreman, David Saunders, Kevin White, Chris Henry
K- Paul Woodside
P- Todd Sauerbrun
KR- Darius Reynaud
PR- Willie Drewery
Pass Rushers- Bruce Irvin, Canute Curtis, Renaldo Turnbull
DB- Aaron Beasley, Pac Man Jones, Steve Newberry, Mike Logan
Considering where WV is in the helmet landscape, a really good team.  Maybe sneaky-good?  Speed everywhere.
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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2019, 10:18:48 PM »
Wouldn't it make more sense for you to tell us who the best player at each position for our team is, according to your game?
That's sort of what I did before, by using career leaders, but wouldn't it be more fun to play as Ohio State with your favorites?  
Like for me, Florida has a ton of WRs with 2000 career yards and 20+ TDs, but I had to put Percy Harvin on the team.  As he split time between RB and WR, he wouldn't make it from a statistical sense alone.  
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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2019, 10:22:10 PM »
Oh I gotcha. Like selecting a fantasy team with a bunch of players that you like as opposed to going off of sheer statistics. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2019, 10:25:22 PM »
Oklahoma

QB (1) - Baker Mayfield
RB (4) - Billy Sims, Adrian Peterson, Greg Pruitt, Samaje Perine
WR/TE (6) - Ryan Broyles, Sterling Shepard, Mark Clayton, Juaquin Iglesias, Keith Jackson, Germaine Gresham
K - Austin Seibert
P - Tress Way
KR - DeMarco Murray
PR - Antonio Perkins
Pass Rushers (2-4, sacks only) - Cedric Jones, Jeremy Beal, Eric Striker
Pass Defenders (2-4, INTs only) - Rickey Dixon, Zack Sanchez, Darrol Ray
So what I would do with this:
the QB simply has his card
I take the 4 RBs and add up their carries.  Then see what % of those carries each RB has, rounded to the nearest 5, adding up to 100%.  Then multiply that by their yards per carry to find their total yardage contribution to this team.  So for OU, say Billy Sims has 35% of this RB quartet.  And say he averaged 6.5 ypc....he'd get 35% of the run play cards (35% of 20, or 7 cards).  His 7 run play cards would be of varying run types and yardage lengths, but would average out to his 6.5 yards per carry.
Same with the WR/TEs - take their % of receptions of the six receivers listed, find that percentage out of 20, and multiply it by their yards per reception.  Then create those cards that average out to their ypc.  
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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2019, 10:25:34 PM »
Oh I gotcha. Like selecting a fantasy team with a bunch of players that you like as opposed to going off of sheer statistics.
Yessir.
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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2019, 10:27:30 PM »
QB (1) - Tua
RB (4) - Derick Henry, Shaun Alexander, Mark Ingram, Damien Harris
WR/TE (6) -  Amari Cooper, Jerry Jeudy, Julio Jones, DJ Hall, Calvin Ridley, Ozzie Newsome
K - Leigh Tiffin
P - JK Scott
KR - Javier Arenas
PR - Javier Arenas

Pass Rushers (2-4, sacks only) - Derrick Thomas-Career-52, Derrick Thomas-Season-27, Derrick Thomas-Season-18, Derrick Thomas-Game-5
Pass Defenders (2-4, INTs only) - Antonio Langham, Jeremiah Castille, John Mangum, Steve Higginbotham
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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2019, 10:47:47 PM »
For those who care, here's what I'd do:

QB (1) - Tebow
RB (4) - Emmitt, Fred Taylor, Errict Rhett, Neal Anderson
WR/TE (6) - Ike & Reidel, Carlos Alvarez, Jabar Gaffney, Chris Doering, Percy Harvin
K - Judd Davis
P - Shayne Edge
KR - Andre Debose
PR - Brandon James

Pass Rushers - Alex Brown, Wilbur Marshall, Huey Richardson
Pass Defenders - Will White, Keiwan Ratliff, Louis Oliver

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For Florida, there's an issue.  I chose an effective runner at QB, so I could use Tebow as a rusher as well, and would.  So I'd drop Neal Anderson.  Same with Harvin - I'd want his big yards per carry numbers in limited carries and drop Rhett.  So in reality, I'd have a Tebow QB card and of my 20 rushing play cards (10 inside run, 10 outside run), those would be distributed between Emmitt, Taylor, Teobw, and Harvin.  So let's look at their carries and ypc (career):
Smith...700 carries @ 5.6 ypc
Taylor...537 carries  5.7 ypc
Tebow...692 carries @ 4.3 ypc
Harvin...194 carries @ 9.5 ypc
=2,123 carries
Smith...~35% of those carries
Taylor...~25%
Tebow...~35%
Harvin...~10%
This adds up to 105%, so since Tebow was furthest from his rounded %, his moves down to 30%.
Smith...35% divided by 5 (there are 20 run play cards, so 1/20 each) = 7 run play cards
Taylor...25%/5 = 5 run play cards
Tebow...30%/5 = 6 run play cards
Harvin...10%/5 = 2 run play cards
Smith's 7 cards will average out to his 5.6 ypc, so we multiply those to get ~39.  His 7 cards will add up to 39.
Taylor - add up to 29
Tebow - add up to 26
Harvin - add up to 19
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I normally just go up the ladder, so for Smith:
1 yard gain, 2 yards, 3 yards, 4 yards, 5 yards, 6 yards....then the rest.  That's 21 and his have to add up to 39, so his long play will be an 18 yard gain.
Taylor - 1 yard, 2 yards, 4 yards, 5 yards, 17 yards
Tebow - no gain, 2 yards, 3 yards, 4 yards, 5 yards, 12 yards
Harvin - 4 yards, 15 yards
So those are the 20 run play cards.....the next step, I put them into 2 groups  that add up to equal each other (for an even distribution of inside runs and outside runs).  Tebow will obviously mostly have inside runs, but the others a mix of both.

Inside runs:  Smith 2, 6...Taylor 1, 17...Tebow 2, 3, 4, 5, 12...Harvin 4
Outside runs:  Smith 4, 1, 3, 5, 18...Taylor 2, 5, 4...Tebow 0...Harvin 15

So I'd make the cards, print them out, cut them, and there's All-Time Florida's 20 run play cards.
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Having typed all that out, I must seem like a psychopath.  LOL
I just enjoy toiling with numbers in my free time.  I created a deep-dive baseball card & dice game initially, and now college football.  It's fun.
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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2019, 10:52:50 PM »
I could include a RB with a better average than Tebow, but with him as my QB, for him to not be included in any rushes would be unrealistic and lame.  So if you include an option QB from the past or a read-option guy like Tebow, you'd have to drop one of your RBs.
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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2019, 11:46:11 PM »
QB (1) - Chuck Long
RB (4) - Tavian Banks, Eddie Podolak, Shonn Greene, Akrum Wadley
WR/TE (6) - T.J. Hockenson, Dallas Clark, Marvin McNutt, Danan Hughes, Ronnie Harmon, Derrelll Johnson-Koulianos
K - Nate Kaeding, without a doubt.
P - Reggie Roby, without a doubt
KR - Earl Douthitt
PR - Tim Dwight

Nile Kinnick could be thrown in here under a number of categories. RB, Punter, Kicker, Passer when RBs passed and QBs rarely passed. He was really good at a lot of things. Still holds the Iowa all-time interception record for a single season, when passing was rare, in an 8-game schedule. And, he caught Bob Feller in high school, and I imagine his hand still stings.


Pass Rushers (2-4, sacks only) - AJ Epenesa, Alex Karras, Adrian Clayborn, Calvin Jones - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Jones
Pass Defenders (2-4, INTs only) - Nile Kinnick, Josh Jackson, Desmond King, Micah Hyde

Oops! Just saw this is supposed to be post-1971. Guess that excludes all-time greats Alex Karras, Calvin Jones and Nile Kinnick.

DL: Replace Karras with Jared Devries, 43 sacks career 1995-98; 13 in 1996.
DL: Replace Jones with Matt Roth, 30 sacks career, and 12 in 2003.
Pass Defense: Replace Kinnick with - you can't replace him with 18 Ints 3-year career. . . Devon Mitchell 18 Ints 4-year career.



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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2019, 10:03:39 AM »
QB: Wilson (I hate going with a 1-year grad transfer, but it's the truth).
RB: Melvin Gordon, Ron Dayne, Montee Ball, Brian Calhoun (another one-year guy)
TE: Owen Daniels, Travis Beckham
WR: Lee Evans, Al Toon, Chris Chambers, Brandon Williams
PK: Phillip Welch
P: Kevin Stemke
KR: Jim Leonhard (primarily returned punts)

Edit:
With the defenders:
J.J. Watt comes to mind, Tim Krumrie, Wendell Bryant, and Tom Burke
Pass Defenders: Troy Vincent, Jim Leonhard, and Jamar Fletcher
Defenders for sacks?

Tom Burke is the top guy for a season. Then you have Tarek Saleh (twice), Schofield, Tim Jordan, Mike Thompson, etc. Saleh is the career leader.

Leonhard was a beast. Fletcher too. After those two, I'd go with Messenger, or Nate Odomes. Vincent didn't have the numbers those guys did.

But, Vincent at kick returner? I'm all-in on that. Tough to back it up with stats though. He didn't do it a lot but when he did he was electric. Much better on punt returns, but still not quite as good as JL. 

I'd still want Nick Toon in there at WR, and Taylor at RB.
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Re: Your School's All-Time Team, as per my game
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2019, 11:42:19 AM »
Yeah, per OAF's note above, I'm not basing this strictly on numbers; I'm going with who I would want. Lots of tough calls for me, especially at the RB position (shocking, I know).

I really liked Schofield. One of my favorite players from the Bielema years.

Taylor's a good call (admittedly I was thinking about past players)--I think he would probably take Ball off my list. I tried balancing the backs: Dayne was obviously a beast, Gordon more of a pure RB--Calhoun was so versatile. On a better team he would have been even better than he was that one season (which was amazing as it was). Ball was a little more straight ahead than Taylor and Gordon (way more than Calhoun). I also think about Moss and Barry saying that if he ever needed one yard, Moss would be the back he would turn to. Don't know if that's still true (he said that before the latest string of NFL-quality backs), but it's not nothing.
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