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« Reply #1246 on: March 17, 2022, 10:23:41 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 16, 2022, 04:01:35 PM
what could possibly go wrong? they totally didn't start a couple of world wars and commit the greatest genocide in human history, or anything.
You're totally not painting the whole picture,half of Europe one day didn't just set their beers down and start killing each other for the hell of it. Actually English Crown had a hand in things if you peek behind the curtain,don't let the common language fool you. Perhaps the years 1776 & 1812 ring a liberty bell.Ask the IRISH - HAPPY ST PADDY'S DAY.The Crown blockaded the North Sea violating international law and causing not only malnutrition and later starvation but angered nuetral countries that had huge trading links with Germany. WW1 was nothing but a continuation of old hostilities that sprung from centuries of warfare.Which later gave rise to Hitler who didn't show his true colors until eliminating all possible opposition
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« Reply #1247 on: March 17, 2022, 10:28:49 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 17, 2022, 09:38:51 AM
I'd say those with private jets are jetting out of Russia ASAP, meaning they want to be away from sanctions et al. and possible social unrest.  I could see martial law in Russia's future, not that it would mean much really.  These could be the wealthy who Putin doesn't much like.
that'd be my guess. Putin just went on a tirade a few days ago saying he's going to deal with the traitors. Probably not a good idea to be on his bad side right now. Many probably just taking precaution and getting the f**k out.
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« Reply #1248 on: March 17, 2022, 10:30:34 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 17, 2022, 12:33:54 AM
 Who the f**k are they to demand anything?

US needs to tell leaders of these nothing countries to shut the f**k up or they're going to get kicked out of NATO. Have to love the skinny little 5 foot 2 twerp who flaps his gums because his sister is dating the biggest, baddest motherf**ker on the block.
This is exactly the same type of responses other countries citizens directed at the USA the last 20 yrs. look at the long string of little countries our government picked on.That only benefitted who? Wasn't the average John & Jane Doe
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« Reply #1249 on: March 17, 2022, 10:31:39 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 17, 2022, 10:02:10 AM

Russian oil won't be on the market to the west for years, at best they can sell to China and India at some discount, and some to Europe.
Huh? Only US/UK have restricted Russian oil. They each only account for about 1% of Russian oil exports. EU, South Korea, and Japan still buying. Today. Right now.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1250 on: March 17, 2022, 10:33:52 AM »
The EU is "the west", Japan isn't.  
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« Reply #1251 on: March 17, 2022, 10:36:57 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 17, 2022, 10:30:34 AM
This is exactly the same type of responses other countries citizens directed at the USA the last 20 yrs. look at the long string of little countries our government picked on.That only benefitted who? Wasn't the average John & Jane Doe
not sure the scenarios are analogous.

NATO is US's ball, court, and rules- it's our club- and these little piss ants are lucky to even be invited in. They need to shut the hell up and just be grateful they have a seat at the table. You have nothing peon countries who never in a million years could establish no fly zones or put boots on the ground in Ukraine- demanding the US do it. Basically demanding the US start World War III. F**k that. And F**k them. If they are so interested in escalation and making a small war turn into a huge one, then they can try it themselves, without our help. Estonia has 2 planes and 4 helicopters in their Air Force. Good luck. :043:
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1252 on: March 17, 2022, 10:38:23 AM »
Never thought I'd see the Soviet Union back in action in my lifetime.
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« Reply #1253 on: March 17, 2022, 10:38:47 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 17, 2022, 10:33:52 AM
The EU is "the west", Japan isn't. 
Japan/South Korea are very tied to "the west" - so, yeah. And EU is still buying Russian oil. So. Yeah.
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« Reply #1254 on: March 17, 2022, 10:39:19 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on March 17, 2022, 10:38:23 AM
Never thought I'd see the Soviet Union back in action in my lifetime.
this is a ridiculous statement.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1255 on: March 17, 2022, 10:43:22 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 17, 2022, 10:08:22 AM
I know.  I do think Ohio should stop naming bays after him though.
BASTAGE, ;D  friends are have been going up there the last two weeks to open up thier B & B.Quite a bit of construction going on much to the chagrin of the locals
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1256 on: March 17, 2022, 10:45:14 AM »
Russia is on pace to lose more soldiers in two months in Ukraine than the US lost in 10 years in Vietnam.  Will that deter Putin?  I don't think so.
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« Reply #1257 on: March 17, 2022, 10:48:01 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 17, 2022, 10:36:57 AM
If they are so interested in escalation and making a small war turn into a huge one, then they can try it themselves, without our help. Estonia has 2 planes and 4 helicopters in their Air Force. Good luck. :043:
Well our War Industry continues to start conundrums then don't they. Follow the money,like leaving how much in Afganistan? When they didn't have to.Our federal Government is such a corrupt shit show and has been for quite some time
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1258 on: March 17, 2022, 10:49:28 AM »
Most of the stuff left in Afg was intended to be for their army.  
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #1259 on: March 17, 2022, 10:57:53 AM »
So when it was obvious that wasn't happening because of the Taliban why not take it all out like sleepy joe 1st promised in 1988 when running against Obama? There was no risk of being over run they actually court martialed some soldiers for pointing exactly this out.It's not our parents/IKE's USA unfortunately
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