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Cincydawg

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2022, 06:14:10 PM »
This is meant to turn the "In Other News" thread back to, well, just that.  Please keep this thread as apolitical as possible with respect to who is more at fault for whatever in this country.  A way to do that is don't refer to the current, or past, President, except in a factual manner.

https://www.maltatoday.com.mt/news/world/115201/military_drones_from_sicily_flying_recon_missions_over_ukraine_black_sea?fbclid=IwAR0RzL2CavM85OKOcjCnA9zm669OJ4xGrk62GR5HcH9zgeJkl0fV4LyA4P0

American military drones at Sigonella have been flying recon missions over Ukraine

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2022, 06:33:52 PM »
This is meant to turn the "In Other News" thread back to, well, just that.  Please keep this thread as apolitical as possible with respect to who is more at fault for whatever in this country.  A way to do that is don't refer to the current, or past, President, except in a factual manner.

https://www.maltatoday.com.mt/news/world/115201/military_drones_from_sicily_flying_recon_missions_over_ukraine_black_sea?fbclid=IwAR0RzL2CavM85OKOcjCnA9zm669OJ4xGrk62GR5HcH9zgeJkl0fV4LyA4P0

American military drones at Sigonella have been flying recon missions over Ukraine
thank god for advanced recon drones like those.

back in the day- used to have to have a pilot in there - and well if he got shot down things could get messy. 

now if a drone gets shot down - it's just a missing piece of expensive hardware.



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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2022, 06:38:51 PM »
hopefully this turns out to be true, and hopefully this means a peace deal has been struck.....hopefully.
I hope so too!

My mind goes to other reasons they might be pulling back and getting clear, but I hope it's the first step toward resolution.



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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2022, 06:44:24 PM »
I've definitely worried in the past that someone worse than Putin could take charge.  

But that was back when he acted rationally in self-interest.

He is no longer acting rationally, and I don't believe someone else would be any worse than Putin is right now. 


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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2022, 07:39:18 PM »
sooo...about that neo-nazi problem....the official twitter account of the Ukranian national guard has a pretty disgusting post in which Azov Batallion fighters are shown dipping bullets in pigs lard to "kill the Kadyrov orcs."

According to their faith, Muslims cannot consume/have pork in their bodies. Kadyrov is a reference to Ramzan Kadyrov, the leader of the Chechen Republic, a Muslim-majority region of Russia. Orcs is a derogatory slang term used in Ukraine for Muslims- and refers to demons from the Lord of the Rings.

This is the official twitter account of the Ukrainian national guard.



https://twitter.com/ng_ukraine/status/1497924614865002497?s=20&t=-cLldRipWprjQEqGqCe5jw


So to recap, the Western-backed Ukrainian state is publicly portraying Muslims as barbarians and lauding its neo-nazi soldiers for threatening to kill them with lard-greased bullets that they hope will send Chechen fighters to hell.

The Azov Battalion is an explicitly neo-nazi militia (which helped lead a violent US-sponsored coup in Ukraine in 2014) and has subsequently been incorporated into the Ukrainian armed forces. And the US has zero business letting arms fall into these goons hands. In fact, they have a moral obligation to ensure that does not happen.

Azov Battalion uses Nazi symbols like the German Wolfsangel and they preach a white-supremacist fascist ideology which portrays Ukrainians as a pure white race fighting supposedly impure “asiatic” Russians.

Here's Azov Battalion fighters...bunch of swell fellas....

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And here's US officers chumming it up with Azov Battalion commanders

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2022, 07:46:30 PM »
I knew a guy who worked for the county and had run in with the chechens - they bombed schools/killed kids & staff - deliberately.According to this guy who has since moved to like N. Mexico they were the slimeballs on the hindsight of humanity
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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2022, 07:58:32 PM »
Since Cincy decided to make a separate thread for it, I'll be removing all posts not related to Putin's illegal and murderous invasion of Ukraine on this thread.


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« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2022, 08:01:02 PM »
I knew a guy who worked for the county and had run in with the chechens - they bombed schools/killed kids & staff - deliberately.According to this guy who has since moved to like N. Mexico they were the slimeballs on the hindsight of humanity
They are.  They're the worst of the worst.

Of course Putin's murderous invasion forces are also bombing schools and killing kids, so there's really not any difference.

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« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2022, 08:07:01 PM »
FRANKFURT, Germany — An Austria-based subsidiary of Russia’s state-owned Sberbank has been ruled likely to fail after depositors fled due to the impact of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

The European Central Bank said early Monday that the bank had 13.6 billion euros in assets at the end of last year, but has experienced “significant deposit outflows” due to “geopolitical tensions.”

The ECB says Vienna-headquartered Sberbank Europe AG “is likely to be unable to pay its debts or other liabilities as they fall due.” The bank is a fully owned subsidiary of Russia’s Sberbank, whose majority shareholder is the Russian government.

Europe’s bank resolution board separately says it has imposed a payments ban on money owed by the bank and a limit on how much depositors can withdraw. The board will decide on further steps, which could include restructuring, selling or liquidating the bank.


Sberbank Europe operates 185 branches and has more than 3,933 employees.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2022, 08:07:40 PM »
They are.  They're the worst of the worst.

Of course Putin's murderous invasion forces are also bombing schools and killing kids, so there's really not any difference.
Ukraine’s Interior Ministry says 352 Ukrainian civilians have been killed during Russia’s invasion, including 14 children. It says an additional 1,684 people, including 116 children, have been wounded.

he ministry’s statement Sunday does not give any information on casualties among Ukraine’s armed forces.

Russia has claimed that its troops are targeting only Ukrainian military facilities and says that Ukraine’s civilian population is not in danger.
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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2022, 08:16:16 PM »
Ukraine’s Interior Ministry says 352 Ukrainian civilians have been killed during Russia’s invasion, including 14 children. It says an additional 1,684 people, including 116 children, have been wounded.

he ministry’s statement Sunday does not give any information on casualties among Ukraine’s armed forces.

Russia has claimed that its troops are targeting only Ukrainian military facilities and says that Ukraine’s civilian population is not in danger.


Yes, lying Russian propaganda says this.

There's video evidence to the contrary.

 

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