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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2017, 03:26:21 PM »
If Wisconsin has more than 1 loss in the regular season, something very unexpected has happened. If the Michigan game was both teams' Big Ten opener, I'd right now guarantee** them to lose their first game in the CCG.


** (in the betting sense)
Nebraska is good enough I can't guarantee a win in Lincoln, but it would be a surprise.

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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2017, 03:51:04 PM »
Road games are hard. Nebraska is no gimme.
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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2017, 04:25:41 PM »
Road games are hard. Nebraska is no gimme.
Agreed, but everybody has them.  As "toughest road games" go, I have to imagine Wisconsin's is the easiest among CFP contenders.  And the home schedule only features one ranked too.

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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2017, 07:49:34 AM »
Camp starts on Saturday. The biggest questions to me are mostly depth-related.

And the biggest one there is QB. Behind Hornibrook, you have a redshirt freshman, a true freshman who enrolled early and went through spring ball and another who just got to Madison a month ago.

That's kinda spooky considering that the clear starter missed time last season while injured.

The staff needs to see one of the kids separate so a clear backup can emerge.
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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2017, 08:30:56 PM »
Hi all. Been a while. And will probably be a while more.

Will the Badgers be any good this year? Who's on this team, anyway? Someone give me a reference point, 'cause time is short. 2006 (great record against a crappy schedule)? 2012 (great team, *just* missed on immortality)? 1998 (came out of nowhere, shouldn't have lost to Michigan in Ann Arbor)? 2013 (a bunch of breaks put them somewhere they didn't belong)? 2000 (started with promise, turns out they sucked)?

Anyway, fill me in. I ain't got time to look for myself.

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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2017, 09:53:30 PM »
Nebraska is good enough I can't guarantee a win in Lincoln, but it would be a surprise.

the games in Lincoln since joining the B1G have been 21-23 Badgers in 2015, 30-27 Huskers in 2012,
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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2017, 09:57:29 PM »
"Will the Badgers be any good this year?"


Yep. They almost always are good since King Barry showed up, and they were good about 25 years prior to him showing up. And it's good he showed up after THE Donna and Sir Pat had the foresight to hire him.

Great is a different story. They have never been that. Well maybe. But probably not. But good.
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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2017, 02:51:32 PM »
Starting OL heading into fall camp, which started today:

LT Michael Deiter
LG Jon Dietzen
C Tyler Biadasz
RG Beau Benzschawel
RT David Edwards

Dieter has played center and guard at UW and has excelled at both spots. He said yesterday that Biadasz is a better center than him, which is saying something. If Deiter can play LT as well as he's played the other positions, this OL is going to be special.
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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2017, 01:02:36 PM »
Hi all. Been a while. And will probably be a while more.

Will the Badgers be any good this year? Who's on this team, anyway? Someone give me a reference point, 'cause time is short. 2006 (great record against a crappy schedule)? 2012 (great team, *just* missed on immortality)? 1998 (came out of nowhere, shouldn't have lost to Michigan in Ann Arbor)? 2013 (a bunch of breaks put them somewhere they didn't belong)? 2000 (started with promise, turns out they sucked)?

Anyway, fill me in. I ain't got time to look for myself.

2006 looks like a good comp.

Turn over the top 2 RBs, lose a No. 2 WR and giving a young QB the reins after an up-and-down freshman year. Lotta skill guys back. OL has experience but loses a first-round LT. D loses four very key contributors, but really no one else, but has to break in a new DC again.

Schedule makes 10-2 and 11-1 attainable with appropriate breaks.At BYU, at Neb and Michigan at home seem like the biggest hurdles (which is very rude to Minnesota).

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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2017, 07:30:48 AM »
I count Iowa as a hurdle, because Iowa always is. Same goes for NU.
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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2017, 06:39:57 AM »
I'm looking forward to seeing the linebackers getting better...

UW's Bob Bostad, coaching defense for first time, has focused on linebackers' fundamentalsJeff Potrykus, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Published 3:15 p.m. CT July 31, 2017 | Updated 6:20 p.m. CT July 31, 2017

MADISON – Bob Bostad understood he would have been foolhardy to tear down and then rebuild Wisconsin’s inside linebacker corps.


When Bostad returned to the UW staff last winter he did so with 27 years on his coaching resume, all on the offensive side of the ball.


What Bostad did was come in, immerse himself in the defensive playbook so he knew what he was talking about, evaluate every inside linebacker on the roster and devise a scheme to improve their fundamentals.


Bostad wanted to know whether players he would be coaching had wandering eyes before the snap or whether they were locked in on their keys. Was their stance sound? Was their first step efficient? Were they getting to the ball as quickly as they could?


To ensure everyone could improve in those areas, Bostad put together a video package of each player.



The good, the bad and the ugly.


“I was not going into these meetings thinking I am going to change things,” said Bostad, who played linebacker at UW-Stevens Point in the 1980s. “I know my place.


“But I thought these were some things that I am seeing – I don’t care if you’re coaching offensive line or you’re coaching linebackers – this is something we can improve on.”


The players bought in.


“He taught us about taking more efficient paths, how to defeat (blocks) better,” redshirt senior Jack Cichy said. “So stuff like that is really going to elevate our game. What coach Chryst said when he was thinking about bringing coach Bostad in was: ‘I don’t need the guy to come in and teach you the X's and O's. I want you guys to be better football players.’


“I think so far that has been true.”


Bostad, who coached the offensive line at UW from 2008-’11 and four years in the National Football League (2012-’15), has tried to show the linebackers how to put linemen in vulnerable positions.



“So if you take a more efficient angle, he physically can’t block you,” Cichy explained. “So if you get low and dip through a gap, he can’t come back and block you there. Once he says it, it makes sense. But it is those things you never really think about beforehand.”


Fellow inside linebacker Ryan Connelly appreciated studying the video package, even if the reviews weren’t always positive.



“I don’t like watching my first couple games from last year,” Connelly said. “I honestly wasn’t that good in those games. It sucks but it definitely helps you watching that.


“My first couple of games, especially the LSU game, I kind of looked like a chicken with my head cut off running around. I was trying to play fast, which helps in a lot of situations, but my run fits weren’t the best. I wasn’t very patient.


"I got better as the season went on."


Bostad has landed in a comfortable spot because he has four linebackers who have started games at UW.


T.J. Edwards, a redshirt junior, has led UW in tackles in each of his first two seasons.



Cichy was leading the team in tackles last season when he suffered a season-ending pectoral injury in Game 7 at Iowa. Despite missing seven games, he finished tied for fourth in tackles with 60.



Connelly, a redshirt junior, was one off Cichy’s pace with 59 stops and made big plays throughout the season.


Chris Orr suffered a season-ending knee injury on UW’s first defensive play in the opener. However, he started six games as a freshman in 2015 and finished sixth on the team in tackles with 46.


The players appreciated Bostad didn’t come in determined to make major renovations. His goal was to improve the fundamentals of each player and thereby make an already strong unit even better.


“He came in with a great mindset,” Cichy said. “His first couple of weeks he didn’t come in and try to take over. He sat in meetings and he started taking notes on the defense. Before he did anything, he wanted to learn the defense, which was huge.


“It showed us that he cared and it showed us that he gave us the respect we thought we deserved and earned.”
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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2017, 10:06:12 AM »
NT Jeremy Patterson and RT Jacob Maxwell have left the Wisconsin program.

Maxwell's story is sad, because it's related to the injury he suffered last season. He was not able to go in Spring and has not been cleared at all by the doctors. He was not on the 105 man roster either. Sounds like he will remain in Madison and concentrate on his studies, which is good.

Patterson is a completely different story. He was considered a major haul for Gerry at the time, fighting off Florida and Georgia to keep his commitment, much like his teammate from HS, WR Kenwrick Sanders. Now he joins his HS teammate as another former Badger. He could not keep his weight down and therefore could not get on the field. He's been given his release and will seek a transfer. It was on him and he knows it.
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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2017, 04:48:57 PM »
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Re: Wisconsin 2017 Preseason Thread
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2017, 12:02:56 PM »

As to that picture.. I think UW has one more on its hands. Not sure about Horni, but the freshman Jack Coan looks legit.


Anyway, speaking of, it seems like he is passing Kare Lyles for the backup QB spot, which kinda bad because I'd hate to see his shirt burned as a backup. I'm guessing the staff would love to see Lyles in that spot this season too, but all the practice reports indicate that Coan is ahead right now.


Tailback is a 3-headed monster with Bradrick Shaw, Chris James and Taiwan Deal all taking a lot of reps.
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