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Topic: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2020, 01:59:22 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 08, 2020, 01:57:27 PM
Nope not anymore I mean just cause you put Afro in your name means nothing

Youre as white as the wind driven snow as far as Im concerned
Then him using "you people" couldn't have had a racial slant to it.  Now you're just nonsensical.  I give up.
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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2020, 02:00:52 PM »
There is not much reason these days to use a bolt action hunting rifle unless your target is an elephant.  Most shotguns are semiautomatic as well.

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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2020, 02:03:20 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 01:45:42 PM
"You people"


You're done. 
I'm just getting started.
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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2020, 02:04:00 PM »
Would a "rounds per minute" distinction be useful, instead of automatic, semiautomatic, and single-shot guns?  
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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2020, 02:05:13 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 08, 2020, 02:00:52 PM
There is not much reason these days to use a bolt action hunting rifle unless your target is an elephant.  Most shotguns are semiautomatic as well.


Yeah, semiautomatic seems like a useless term when discussing this.  It's also very much about how many bullets you're able to shoot before reloading. 

I'm fearful (can't prove) that this is on purpose by the gun lobby.  While the egg lobby was resting, the gun lobby harped on the distinction between automatic and semiautomatic, making the semiautomatic moniker sound safer and preferable.  All the while, knowing that politicians and the masses wouldn't realize that all of these mass shootings are by semiautomatic weapons with 30-40 bullets being shot in mere seconds.  

I think further distinction would be useful, but the NRA would be against it's widespread use.  I don't think they want non-gun owners knowing more about this at all.
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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2020, 02:05:59 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 12:58:47 PM
Umm....yeah, it's not so much about how often they're used in crimes.  It's that when they are, dozens of people die.  You get that, right? 
Can you cite the killings of dozens of people in one event by shooters armed with AR-15s?
Can you cite the statistics of how many of the people criminally killed by shooters were killed by shooters using AR-15s?
Do you distinguish between AR-15s and Ruger Mini-14s?  If you do, on what basis?
I ask these questions because I do not understand the logic of so many people concerning the AR-15, as if it is some uniquely lethal firearm that has a mind of its own, while other semi-automatic rifles, handguns, and shotguns are left unmentioned.
And I also ask because I believe that the "logic" may be that banning the AR-15 would establish a precedent for banning those other semi-automatic firearms, and that the AR-15 is picked because it looks "scary" to people who know nothing about firearms.
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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2020, 02:07:36 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 02:04:00 PM
Would a "rounds per minute" distinction be useful, instead of automatic, semiautomatic, and single-shot guns? 

rounds per minute is largely tied to how many rounds a clip will hold cause we cant own true automatics just semi automatics

which translates into how many times can you pull the trigger in one minute

 
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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2020, 02:08:06 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 08, 2020, 01:55:18 PM
I'm booing its existence.

There are threads I'm OK with even when they dip into the usually forbidden topics. When they're built around them, there I draw a line. (I have no vote, but I'm disapproving anyway)
For some reason the OP has carte blanche to just piss and sh!t all over the rules regarding politics and religion.

Dude must have compromising pictures of the mods and admins.
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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2020, 02:09:26 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on June 08, 2020, 02:05:59 PM
 I also ask because I believe that the "logic" may be that banning the AR-15 would establish a precedent for banning those other semi-automatic firearms, and that the AR-15 is picked because it looks "scary" to people who know nothing about firearms.
bingo nailed it CW
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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2020, 02:10:52 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 08, 2020, 02:05:13 PM
Yeah, semiautomatic seems like a useless term when discussing this.  It's also very much about how many bullets you're able to shoot before reloading. 

The number of rounds obviously depends on the magazine, not the rifle itself.  And semiautomatic is THE critical feature that enables magazine with many many rounds to be fired with each trigger pull.  It is not a useless term at all.

It's also worth noting that swapping an empty magazine for a full one takes perhaps a second for a reasonably proficient shooter.  So, the different between a killer with a 30 round magazine and one with three ten round magazines is functionally not very significant unless he's incompetent.

The full term should be "semiautomatic rifle with detachable magazine".  ANY rifle of that sort can kill a lot of people very quickly.

So can a 9 mm handgun.  So can a person with two .357 revolvers with speed loaders and a pump shotgun.
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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2020, 02:11:46 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 08, 2020, 02:08:06 PM
For some reason the OP has carte blanche to just piss and sh!t all over the rules regarding politics and religion.

Dude must have compromising pictures of the mods and admins.
hey theres just so much football stuff you can talk about specially when there is no football
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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #53 on: June 08, 2020, 02:13:09 PM »
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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2020, 02:14:14 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 08, 2020, 02:10:52 PM
The number of rounds obviously depends on the magazine, not the rifle itself.  And semiautomatic is THE critical feature that enables magazine with many many rounds to be fired with each trigger pull.  It is not a useless term at all.

It's also worth noting that swapping an empty magazine for a full one takes perhaps a second for a reasonably proficient shooter.  So, the different between a killer with a 30 round magazine and one with three ten round magazines is functionally not very significant unless he's incompetent.

The full term should be "semiautomatic rifle with detachable magazine".  ANY rifle of that sort can kill a lot of people very quickly.

So can a 9 mm handgun.  So can a person with two .357 revolvers with speed loaders and a pump shotgun.
lol, this is why there are people out there who want all the guns taken away.
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Re: Why do I need an AR-15 (or similar semi)?
« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2020, 02:14:31 PM »
When it says "these weapons", to what is it referring?

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