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Topic: Who is the new Vols H.C.?

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ELA

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Re: Who is the new Vols H.C.?
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2017, 02:04:12 PM »

With Gruden, I'm guessing the blueprint Vols are going for is a Jim Harbaugh type of hire, but it only works on paper.


Why not?  I think finishing 3rd in the East every year is attainable

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« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2017, 03:33:21 PM »
I think they should just hire Peyton Manning as their new HC...
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« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2017, 05:41:14 PM »
Peyton's also going to collude with the Russians to oust Papa John and take THAT over, too.  He's shrewd, I tells ya.
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Re: Who is the new Vols H.C.?
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2017, 05:50:46 PM »
just like Johnny Elway
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Re: Who is the new Vols H.C.?
« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2017, 06:02:55 PM »
Peyton's also going to collude with the Russians to oust Papa John and take THAT over, too.  He's shrewd, I tells ya.
Who'd want it?  Some guys took a knee, and now people want to eat shitty Pizza Hut or something.  Except now the Nazis endorsed Papa John's so maybe they'll be ok after all.

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« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2017, 06:03:05 PM »
the thing about Gruden and UT is romance... i've argued with people (recently) and don't know why they can't get it through their heads that UT is trying to land him.  that isn't supposition, that is fact.  There was talk that went nowhere prior to Kiffin, then talk that ended pretty quickly before Dooley... now, there is talk yet again.  

that doesn't mean Gruden is talking with UT.... from all gathered intel, it's a one way conversation.  It's supposed Gruden used threats last time to enhance his contract with his media job.  who knows. maybe that is the case now, too... maybe it's all bullshit. honestly, the talks are stemming from the lack of official talk... 

y'all realize the talk is in despair, right?  the sentiment is not a long term solution but something that will do until the long term solution presents itself- and during that period, not sustaining any additional damage. Name recognition alone will draw players and young coaches.  The supposition and allure is fairly simple: he'll bring recruits instantly and he'll bring the coach who replaces him, and likely who replaces him in likely less than three years.

for those reasons^, i get the passion surrounding the romance of gruden as a coach.... but there may be a solution available right now that sidesteps all of that.  those names are on the list of people pseudo 'close to the program' who have relayed their pursuit.. Patterson, who was jilted prior to the Kiffin hire, who was interested then but not later (prior or Jones hire, likely due to admin at the time which was horrid at that point). Gundy has been mentioned, Stillwater anchor or not, apparently the admin and Gundy have had their altercations... he flat turned UT down in '12.  again, because the admin were clowns.  Petersen has been mentioned.. I consider these my (as if my opinion matters) 'dream hires'... i've no clue about the likelihood.  Fisher was mentioned.  Steele, the AD at Auburn was mentioned. The current DC at Bama is apparently shopping, and he's been mentioned.  Of course Miles and Kelly have been mentioned, along with Frost.  

I like Frost, but he's another 'chance' hire.  UT/UF/Nebraska may kick themselves in a few years for looking past him, but in UT's position specifically, the time for 'experiments' is past.  I think he'd be a great hire in Lincoln, as a returning red hot star of a son, and they aren't really in that bad of a position and can likely afford the gamble UT certainly can't, and UF likely shouldn't.  That leaves Kelly- and who I believe is a far better fit for UF than for UT.  Mullen is going to be a sexy hire for an unsexy machine he'd likely build- methodical and lumbering and absolutely capable of carrying the water, but not a draw for hot chics.  The guy from SMU and Memphis have been volleyed, as Fuente from VT seems to be a target schools with helmetosity think they can steal from VT... the DC from Clemson is wearing a target for someone... Folks keep talking about Jim Bob Cooter as a possibility for UT, and for other college programs- the thoughts being the OC is ready for a college head job as a stepping stone to later pro HC.. 

lots of speculation out there... not enough official talk released... which breeds more speculation that get's wilder and wilder as the quiet grows on the other side... it's cult like how quickly these things grow legs and how strongly people believe in their own reasoning- that can't be disproved so long as one side is quiet, or if the target straight up denies it... and even then, folks will point ot Saban leaving the dolphins as cause not to believe even that.  

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Re: Who is the new Vols H.C.?
« Reply #48 on: November 14, 2017, 07:35:36 PM »
UNL is already kicking themselves for not hiring Frost.
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Re: Who is the new Vols H.C.?
« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2017, 08:50:22 PM »
Mullen would be a coup IMO.He's done well since Dak left for the Cowboys.Lost with under a minute to Bama last sat.
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Re: Who is the new Vols H.C.?
« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2017, 09:47:27 PM »
UNL is kicking themselves for not hiring ANYONE but Riley

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Re: Who is the new Vols H.C.?
« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2017, 10:02:57 PM »
UNL is kicking themselves for not hiring ANYONE but Riley
I still don't get why he was hired in the first place. That one blows my mind. 

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« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2017, 10:08:04 PM »
dear husker fans,

i'm terribly sorry UT has managed to steal cleanly from your grasp the dubious distinction on how to eff up a coaching change.  truly.  

for what it's worth, i'm certain the collective sentiment is that the proper thing to do in recognition of this crime, is to hand it back- if you're willing, that is.  

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Re: Who is the new Vols H.C.?
« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2017, 10:17:28 PM »
I still don't get why he was hired in the first place. That one blows my mind.
its obvious, Riley was/is the anti-Pelini
many programs hire an opposite of the fired coach, hoping for a change
the Huskers got change - from 10 wins to 5 wins
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Re: Who is the new Vols H.C.?
« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2017, 10:22:19 PM »
dear husker fans,

i'm terribly sorry UT has managed to steal cleanly from your grasp the dubious distinction on how to eff up a coaching change.  truly.  

for what it's worth, i'm certain the collective sentiment is that the proper thing to do in recognition of this crime, is to hand it back- if you're willing, that is.  
if Moos gets Frost, it won't prove much to me regarding Moos
pretty sure Moos won't go after and sign another guy like Riley - well respected coach in an underdog role in his state, unless it's Matt Cambell in Ames
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Re: Who is the new Vols H.C.?
« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2017, 01:36:44 AM »
If you hire someone named Jim Bob Cooter, you deserve every loss you get.
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