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Topic: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?

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MrNubbz

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #84 on: January 31, 2020, 05:18:14 PM »
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #85 on: February 09, 2020, 11:14:54 PM »
This is 2020. Language skills are important so you must parse. FSU was down is more correct.
You are right.

If FSU is non-helmet, I suspect they actually have a shot. They have Brock Purdy's little brother coming in, a 4* recruit, at QB. FSU could make a quick comeback. I am thinking, they won't be in playoff mode in 2020. When they are fully back FSU has to beat Clemson, Hogtown, and Miami for the best chance at a playoff.

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« Reply #86 on: February 10, 2020, 12:11:35 PM »
If FSU is a non-helmet, then it's officially impossible to become a helmet over a 40-year span.  Being a top 5 team for 14 or whatever straight years, 3 NCs, Heismans, etc.  Granted, they started from basically zero, but wow.
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #87 on: February 10, 2020, 01:22:56 PM »
2006 was 7-6, Florida State had to vacate five wins

2007 was 7-6, Florida State had to vacate all seven wins

2006 to 2009 and now the past 3 seasons currently have obviously hurt.

I believe if they could have kept up the winning and added more conference championships, they would be included in the helmet club today
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #88 on: February 10, 2020, 01:26:14 PM »
Yes, if Florida St hasn't earned their stripes yet, then the Oregons and Clemsons of the world have no chance. Zero, zilch, nada.
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #89 on: February 10, 2020, 04:31:03 PM »
Clemson is on a pretty good track right now.  How long can they sustain?  How long will Dabo be there and will the next guy be as good?
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« Reply #90 on: February 10, 2020, 09:10:53 PM »
2006 was 7-6, Florida State had to vacate five wins

2007 was 7-6, Florida State had to vacate all seven wins

2006 to 2009 and now the past 3 seasons currently have obviously hurt.

I believe if they could have kept up the winning and added more conference championships, they would be included in the helmet club today
Right, but isn't that sort of an impossible standard?  Taking the past 40 years exactly, FSU is #2 in win% overall.  #2 over a 40-year stretch and you're still calling for some more wins/ conference championships.  Sheesh.
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« Reply #91 on: February 10, 2020, 10:14:56 PM »
I didn't say it was easy or fair

I'm just saying it's not impossible

unfortunately, the Noles haven't been competitive with Clemson the past 5 seasons

takes a little shine off the helmet
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« Reply #92 on: February 10, 2020, 10:37:29 PM »
I didn't say it was easy or fair

I'm just saying it's not impossible

unfortunately, the Noles haven't been competitive with Clemson the past 5 seasons

takes a little shine off the helmet
And yet most? would argue Nebraska and Tennessee are helmets....the shine on those is worn down to the interior padding....
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« Reply #93 on: February 10, 2020, 10:43:31 PM »
they are close to dropping out
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« Reply #94 on: February 10, 2020, 11:44:24 PM »
If Minnesota can forfeit helmet status in under 40 years, it makes sense that a team can earn its way into helmet status in 40 years.  And yes, being 2nd in win% over 40 years WITH 3 NCs clears the bar.
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« Reply #95 on: February 11, 2020, 11:03:11 AM »
so, FSU is a helmet, or FSU was a helmet 6 years ago?

#5 in winning % over 80 years is more impressive
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #96 on: February 11, 2020, 12:03:38 PM »
FSU didn't even start its football program until after WWII right?  I think it was only made coeducational around that timeframe.

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #97 on: February 11, 2020, 01:26:33 PM »
Which team that qualifies as a helmet  for this exercise had the worst go of it from 1970-79?
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
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