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Topic: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?

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ELA

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Now the non-helmet question

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2020, 01:59:51 PM »
Wisconsin, again.  Go Badgers!

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2020, 02:03:47 PM »
I think the two vote-getters so far are obvious... 

But I think Wisconsin has it easier. They could get there completely missing OSU, if they don't have OSU as a crossover and UM or PSU beats OSU, and then they just have to get by one of those two teams in the CCG. 

Florida is in a tougher conference, and I think that whatever team comes out of the West into the CCG is likely to be favored over Florida in a CCG and a harder team to beat. 

That said... I think Florida has a talent advantage on Wisconsin, and if they made it to the CFP, would have better odds at winning the NC than Wisconsin would in that same situation. 

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2020, 02:04:32 PM »
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2020, 02:12:42 PM »
I think the two vote-getters so far are obvious...

But I think Wisconsin has it easier. They could get there completely missing OSU, if they don't have OSU as a crossover and UM or PSU beats OSU, and then they just have to get by one of those two teams in the CCG.

Florida is in a tougher conference, and I think that whatever team comes out of the West into the CCG is likely to be favored over Florida in a CCG and a harder team to beat.

That said... I think Florida has a talent advantage on Wisconsin, and if they made it to the CFP, would have better odds at winning the NC than Wisconsin would in that same situation.
When Michigan comes off as UW's 6 year crossover, OSU comes on as the new 6 year crossover.

I went with Florida. All the ingredients are there.
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2020, 02:27:32 PM »
I went with Florida. All the ingredients are there.
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2020, 02:33:12 PM »
For UW to even have a chance, they have to win in Indy. They have yet to do that since the divisions switched. They came super-close in 2017, when all the stars aligned. But, they still couldn't get it done.
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2020, 02:59:38 PM »
So you are predicting that the Wolverines will never win da East?
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2020, 03:05:02 PM »
I went with Auburn

they've shown they can go toe to toe with the SEC powers and win
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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2020, 03:20:55 PM »
Feel free to laugh, but I'm going with K-State.  I like what Chris Klieman is doing in Manhattan.  Defense is real, and if they keep thumping OU like that, the B12 could be there for the taking in the next couple of years.

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2020, 03:26:56 PM »
I went with Florida.  As someone upthread said, all the ingredients are there.  They have three NC's in the last 25 years and they can do it again.  

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2020, 03:32:57 PM »
Florida has one of the toughest paths to make it though.  UF has some advantages that even a lot of SEC schools lack, but UGA isn't going anywhere, Carolina and Kentucky are landmines, and of course there's the annual brawl with LSU and any other SECW heavyweight they might draw in the regular season (or if they're fortunate enough to win the East, face in the SECCG).

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2020, 04:05:59 PM »
Florida has one of the toughest paths to make it though.  UF has some advantages that even a lot of SEC schools lack, but UGA isn't going anywhere, Carolina and Kentucky are landmines, and of course there's the annual brawl with LSU and any other SECW heavyweight they might draw in the regular season (or if they're fortunate enough to win the East, face in the SECCG).
That is all true, but Florida has some advantages from that as well.  For starters, if they win the SEC they are almost certainly in.  Stanford, TCU, aTm, or Wisconsin might miss the CFP at 12-1 but Florida would almost certainly get in.  They also could sneak in at 11-1 if a loss (say to UGA) kept them out of the SECCG.  

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Re: Which non-helmet school will be the next to make their CFP debut?
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2020, 08:37:45 PM »
Florida, especially while FSU is down.  It makes the end of the year tolerable.  
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