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Topic: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #308 on: December 03, 2025, 11:46:04 AM »
How do TCU fans view their season playing for the NC?  Probably varied, on the one hand, obviously some marquis wins.  On the other, 65-7, suggesting to many they had no business.

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #309 on: December 03, 2025, 11:51:53 AM »
Of course they will. But only the most delusional among them believe that they have a chance to win it all.

Do you think they'd look back any less fondly if they lose on Saturday, Ohio State (rightly) would be in the BCS #1 vs #2 matchup, and they were shipped of to the "lowly" Rose Bowl for the first time in ~60 years? Or even if it was pre-BCS and OSU went to the Rose, and they were in the Citrus bowl? I think they'd hold it up right there with the way Purdue fans hold up 2000. It'd still be a 12-1 season counting the CCG, and a chance to make it 13-1.

The CFP still ultimately doesn't improve anything over that for Indiana, because I believe they can't win it. So it'll be a great--historic even--season for them. But not IMHO any better than if it ended in a marquee bowl. And they'd have a MUCH bigger chance of winning that marquee bowl game than winning the whole CFP tournament. Because facing one team, even as an underdog, is a lot less daunting than facing 3 straight legit teams.

Different sport, but the little guys in the NCAA Tourney look like they're having a lot of fun -- whilst knowing they don't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning it all.

And IU has much better odds than they do.

Some folks value getting invited to the Big Boy Dance. (even if they don't/can't) win.


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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #310 on: December 03, 2025, 01:05:51 PM »
23 pages later and I think it's really three things: (1) there will always be argument about selection, no matter how big or small the tournament (see NCAA basketball tournament); (2) with a tournament, teams that did not have "the best" season have a chance to win the championship--as we have discussed elsewhere, this means we are now crowning the tournament winner, not necessarily the "best" team, but that is an American tradition, so CFB has merely fallen in line with how our other sports crown their winners (at some point soon, a 3-loss team will win the championship); and (3) change. Change is constant, and this is change. My old-fogey belief is that one of the charms of college football has always been its regionalism. That's part of the reason for the big rivalries between IU and Purdue, Wisconsin and Minnesota, Ole Miss and Mississippi State, Cal and Stanford, largely/historically teams that no one outside of their regions cares about. Frankly, it's even a big part of the reason for the major rivalries: if you aren't sure whether you will get a shot at the MNC, you can at least celebrate your win in The Game, or the Iron Bowl, or the Red River Shoot Out. The CFP marginalizes regionalism in favor of an exciting tournament that sports fans will love, even if the regionalism (including the bowl games that featured #3 conference A vs #3 conference B) suffers. That's fine--it's trading one thing for another, and very likely the majority of sports consumers will like it better. And for those of us who grew up feasting on the regionalism and the bragging rights between teams that no one else cared about, it won't feel quite as good until our team makes it into the playoff, at which point we will love that we are there, just like teams celebrate their inclusion in the NCAA basketball tournaments, even when they have effectively zero chance of winning.

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #311 on: December 03, 2025, 01:30:14 PM »
Useful point, if UGA makes the basketball NCAA, it's a great season.  If they make the CFP and lose ....


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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #312 on: December 03, 2025, 02:25:00 PM »
What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas?????
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #313 on: December 03, 2025, 02:27:41 PM »

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #314 on: December 03, 2025, 02:37:23 PM »
What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas?????
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Well that's what the committee DID do.

Is it what they SHOULD do?  Remains debatable.

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #315 on: December 03, 2025, 02:42:39 PM »
No decision will be universally accepted, as noted.  I can argue both ways, as others have done.  I'm willing to abide by whatever they decide, given I have no influence anyway.  Of more interest is whether scheduling in the future changes.

That would be ... unfortunate.

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #316 on: December 03, 2025, 02:51:38 PM »
No decision will be universally accepted, as noted.  I can argue both ways, as others have done.  I'm willing to abide by whatever they decide, given I have no influence anyway.  Of more interest is whether scheduling in the future changes.
This is the purpose of this thread that mb started.

That would be ... unfortunate inevitable.
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #317 on: December 03, 2025, 03:09:11 PM »
Different sport, but the little guys in the NCAA Tourney look like they're having a lot of fun -- whilst knowing they don't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning it all.

And IU has much better odds than they do.

Some folks value getting invited to the Big Boy Dance. (even if they don't/can't) win.
Basketball is a very different situation for a lot of reasons. Absent postseason tournaments, those teams would be sitting at home. There's nothing analogous to the bowls. 

The closest analogy would be the NCAAT vs the NIT or CBI. One can certainly suggest that the continued expansion of the NCAAT has "crowded out" any competing postseason tournament.


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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #318 on: December 03, 2025, 03:53:25 PM »
Basketball is a very different situation for a lot of reasons. Absent postseason tournaments, those teams would be sitting at home. There's nothing analogous to the bowls.

The closest analogy would be the NCAAT vs the NIT or CBI. One can certainly suggest that the continued expansion of the NCAAT has "crowded out" any competing postseason tournament.



Yes, different as I suggested, but the larger point is...

Even when the NCAA Tournament was 32 teams a hundred years ago, everyone and their brother preferred a 1st round NCAAT bounce, to an NIT Championship.

Given a nice bowl, or a chance at the prize, I believe more CFB "little guys" would still prefer a shot at the big time.

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #319 on: December 03, 2025, 03:59:40 PM »
Michigan belongs nowhere near a playoff lol. the 3 teams with a pulse they played they got spanked. Sharon Moore is a clown and Wink Twinkletoes Fuckface was run out of the NFL for a reason- he's fat over the hill washed up dirty ass cheeks.

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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #320 on: December 03, 2025, 04:03:12 PM »
NIT used to be much more prestigious than the NCAA.

Up until 1950 or so. Maybe a little later. Al McGuire blew off the NCAA and took Market to the NIT (and won it) in 1970.
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Re: What should the committee do with Michigan and Texas
« Reply #321 on: December 03, 2025, 06:07:50 PM »
It sounds like Michigan and Texas will be playing a bowl game against each other. 

 

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