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Re: Week 2 Preview
« Reply #84 on: September 04, 2019, 03:48:59 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on September 04, 2019, 03:45:06 PM
I think Marshall-Boise on Friday night is sneaky intriguing.  If G5 had “blue bloods” both of these schools would qualify.  Boise’s reputation is well known but since entering the FBS ranks in 1997 Marshall has eight 10 win seasons in its own right.

If they’ve ever met I can’t remember it so adds to the interest level for me.

Agree, these are a couple of "newbloods" and it should be an interesting game.
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Re: Week 2 Preview
« Reply #85 on: September 04, 2019, 03:55:10 PM »
Two lines surprise me here, Maryland and Syracuse, and Vandy at Purdue.  I'd probably favor the Cues and have the second game close to even.

And, I'm probably wrong of course.  The lines are quite good on average, which probably is why they exist.
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Re: Week 2 Preview
« Reply #86 on: September 04, 2019, 09:13:09 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on September 04, 2019, 03:45:06 PM
I think Marshall-Boise on Friday night is sneaky intriguing.  If G5 had “blue bloods” both of these schools would qualify.  Boise’s reputation is well known but since entering the FBS ranks in 1997 Marshall has eight 10 win seasons in its own right.

If they’ve ever met I can’t remember it so adds to the interest level for me.
Since 1996, when Boise State entered Division I, they have not played Marshall.

http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/BoiseState.htm
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Re: Week 2 Preview
« Reply #87 on: September 04, 2019, 09:34:11 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on September 04, 2019, 09:13:09 PM
Since 1996, when Boise State entered Division I, they have not played Marshall.

http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/BoiseState.htm
Yeah, I didn’t think they had because I think I would remember if they did.  I sorta halfway keep an eye on what they do in Huntington and a game with Boise would have intrigued me (like it does now).  I’m not exactly sure what either team has yet but there are years this game could have been for the Pretend G5 National Championship.
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Re: Week 2 Preview
« Reply #88 on: September 04, 2019, 11:55:06 PM »
In their only previous meeting, Boise defeated Marshall 26-24 in a 1994 1AA Semifinal. 

Boise then went onto get doubled up by Jim Tressel's Youngstown State team in the NCG. 
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« Reply #89 on: September 05, 2019, 12:12:59 AM »
In fact looking at that season, the old 1AA bracket essentially was a G5 playoff, by today's standards. 

Marshall's lone blemish during the regular season was at the hands of Appalachian State. In the playoffs they knocked off Middle Tennessee and James Madison, before falling to Boise St. 

Boise St knocked off #1 Montana and #3 Idaho in the final three weeks of the regular season. Then in the playoffs they beat North Texas, Appalachian State and Marshall before getting Tressel balled into oblivion by the Penguins. Their lone blemish before the NCG debacle was kind of a stunning 1 point road loss vs the lowly Idaho State Bengals. 
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Re: Week 2 Preview
« Reply #90 on: September 05, 2019, 12:42:48 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 04, 2019, 03:47:56 PM
The factors at play in 2010 and 2011, driving conference expansion, are diminishing in importance with every passing day.  I'm not certain there is much impetus to push to 16 at this point, for any conference.  And as illustrated from this discussion, there are plenty of reasons NOT to do so.


money will always be the evil driver of expansion 

if the PAC gets left out of the big $$$ - outdistanced by the SEC and/or the B1G

USC and UCLA will do something to close the gap
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Re: Week 2 Preview
« Reply #91 on: September 05, 2019, 03:13:42 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 05, 2019, 12:42:48 PM
money will always be the evil driver of expansion

if the PAC gets left out of the big $$$ - outdistanced by the SEC and/or the B1G

USC and UCLA will do something to close the gap
Money will definitely drive it.

But expansion for cable subscriber footprints is no longer going to be such an important factor.  Many new and interesting routes to market are coming available, and many of the most important target customers aren't consuming the product anywhere close to the same way they were even 6-8 years ago.

That's the type of thing I'm talking about. 
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« Reply #92 on: September 05, 2019, 03:29:07 PM »
we've discussed this many times

it's about content, not the delivery method

if the PAC doesn't have the content, they won't make the same amount of money.  That's what's happening today.  That's why the PAC lags behind the other conferences.

If that gap gets wide enough, the big boys such as USC and UCLA will find a way to maximize their content.  This will mean not watering it down with Washington St, Oregon St., Colorado, Utah, and the Arizona programs
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Re: Week 2 Preview
« Reply #93 on: September 05, 2019, 03:45:31 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 05, 2019, 03:29:07 PM
we've discussed this many times

it's about content, not the delivery method

if the PAC doesn't have the content, they won't make the same amount of money.  That's what's happening today.  That's why the PAC lags behind the other conferences.

If that gap gets wide enough, the big boys such as USC and UCLA will find a way to maximize their content.  This will mean not watering it down with Washington St, Oregon St., Colorado, Utah, and the Arizona programs

It's about both, because right now the big gap for B1G is the forced payments from non-viewers as a result of the cable subscriber model.  That has nothing to do with content and everything to do with the cable subscriber model delivery method.

As that cable subscriber model vanishes, so will that big gap.  And when that gap diminishes, teams like UCLA and USC won't feel as much pressure to make a change.


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« Reply #94 on: September 06, 2019, 10:24:57 AM »
you are right about that, as the generation turns over fewer folks will pay for content they don't watch.

this will simply mean that sports fans will pay much more

I think the gap will remain, because of content value.
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« Reply #95 on: September 06, 2019, 12:42:27 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 06, 2019, 10:24:57 AM
you are right about that, as the generation turns over fewer folks will pay for content they don't watch.

this will simply mean that sports fans will pay much more

I think the gap will remain, because of content value.
The gap isn't really in the first or second tier, it's in the 3rd.  And that third tier content is currently overvalued because of the forced-payment cable subscriber model.  It's the delivery model that's causing the issue, not the content.  As that model disappears, so will the revenue from it, and so will the gap.

On a per-view basis, I agree that the sports fan will pay more.  It's inevitable, without all of the non-watchers being forced to subsidize the sports fan's viewing choices.

The good news is, the sports fan will have a lot more options in specificity and variety and delivery of that content.  Ultimately if you care most about watching the Huskers and don't care that much about watching Virginia or Tennessee, you'll probably be able to pay less than you do currently.
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Re: Week 2 Preview
« Reply #96 on: September 06, 2019, 02:37:59 PM »
it's going to be bad for sports and college football

the greed of the folks selling content will skyrocket prices and that will cause folks to watch less

today Husker fans watch Virginia and Tennessee, in the future they will not

Athletic department revenues are almost certain to drop, this will cause issues
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Re: Week 2 Preview
« Reply #97 on: September 06, 2019, 02:40:13 PM »
Everything is gonna be different in 20-30 years. Some of us might not even be around to notice.
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