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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9128 on: November 18, 2023, 06:12:04 AM »
There is.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9129 on: November 18, 2023, 06:17:25 AM »
have you sat down with many profs?
Bookies and bartenders are much better informed with a better perspective on the economical/social happenings
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9130 on: November 18, 2023, 06:18:47 AM »
Bookies and bartenders are much better informed with a better perspective on the economical/social happenings
Yep.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9132 on: November 18, 2023, 06:40:30 AM »
Soils or plants will absorb more CO2 as carbon levels rise—but not both (phys.org)

The real answer is "We don't know".

And I'd say anything reported in the "news" media is often not science.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9133 on: November 18, 2023, 06:47:34 AM »
The author is the science editor at the telegraph, and the research was done by scientists from universities in Ireland and Australia.

The research is published here.

Higher global gross primary productivity under future climate with more advanced representations of photosynthesis | Science Advances

Science.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9134 on: November 18, 2023, 07:17:17 AM »
There are exceptions, but USUALLY in my experience they leave out contrasting views and other perspectives.  They present a thing as a "done deal" when in fact it's really fairly speculative, hence the use of the term "may" or "might".

These various climate reports nearly always fail to account for the incredible complexity of climate science and our lack of knowledge in being able to predict much of anything.

It's like a report based on "Michigan insiders".

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9135 on: November 18, 2023, 07:22:21 AM »
Did you read the study?
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9136 on: November 18, 2023, 07:25:11 AM »
Nope.  Not yet.  I am speaking generally, not about that study.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9137 on: November 18, 2023, 07:27:17 AM »
We used the RCP8.5 climate scenario to conduct factorial model simulations characterizing the individual and combined effects of the three mechanisms on projections of GPP.


From the summary, that is a yellow flag for me, the RCP8.5 is widely considered to be very wrong.

Then there is this:

 Our results suggest that current TBMs underestimate GPP responses to future CO2 and climate conditions.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9138 on: November 18, 2023, 08:27:15 AM »
that's a suggestion
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9139 on: November 18, 2023, 08:29:45 AM »
I would bet there is a difference depending on field, STEM vs not.
I'm betting on your side

but, many profs of all disciplines don't get out in the real world much

very intelligent regarding their specific discipline, not so much on other areas
the challenge when a person is very intelligent is staying in their lane
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9140 on: November 18, 2023, 08:35:13 AM »
I knew some pretty quirky professors who I at times wondered if they could really survive on their own in the world.  But most I knew are pretty sensible types.

I got to know my "boss" at UNC quite well over the years, he was pretty normal, great basketball player, and he built his own furniture and brewed his own beer.

I knew John Swenton at Ohio State pretty well, he was quite normal overall, smart guy.  My neighbor has some weird things about him, but he's fairly normal, for a physicist.  Sort of, usually.  He's deep into photography, but he visits very strange places at times.  He's off to Ghana soon.

I got to know others at UNC pretty well, more casually of course, I didn't hang out with them.  Ernest Eliel was on my committee, he was a pretty neat guy.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9141 on: November 20, 2023, 01:28:52 PM »
Coastal towns can't ignore a new climate change report about rising sea levels (msnbc.com)
Coastal towns can't ignore a new climate change report about rising sea levels (msnbc.com)

More breathless and very irresponsible reporting, which isn't a shock.

 

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