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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9114 on: November 16, 2023, 10:39:52 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 15, 2023, 05:39:00 PM
Net-Zero Targets: Sustainable Future or CO2 Obsession Driven Dead-end? | Climate Etc. (judithcurry.com)

Intermittent energy sources such as solar and wind will not be able to replace the firm (dispatchable) power generation from fossil fuels without massive energy storage on the order of several months worth of energy consumption. In the absence of such energy storage technology, one has to conclude that renewables are not viable alternative to fossil fuels. Only nuclear energy is a viable “stock limited” resource where the stocks are much larger than the jack pot from fossil fuels.

You'd think that Texas energy crisis a couple of winters ago would've driven that point home.  Amazingly, "they" were able to make the narrative that it illustrated the dire need for renewable sources, when in fact it was precisely renewables that got us in that pickle.  "They" are far, far better at messaging and marketing.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9115 on: November 17, 2023, 08:34:05 AM »
Many corporations promote ‘net zero’ while lobbying for weaker climate action: Report | The Hill

Many of America’s leading corporations are quietly lobbying against policies to slow planetary heating — even as they tout their own environmental policies, according to a new report
according to a new report by the nonpartisan research group InfluenceMap.

The report found that 93 percent of American companies make the claim that they aim to achieve “net zero” climate effects, but they are only “weakly” aligned with the policies those companies and their trade groups actually promote.



Yeah, I'm cynical about any PR from companies.  Any company.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9116 on: November 17, 2023, 08:35:22 AM »
True climate progress, the U.N. argued, requires companies to both make good faith efforts to track, trace and reduce their burning of fossil fuel in absolute terms, not just relative ones.
Even if companies sincerely try to do this, it’s an uphill battle — given that technologies for accounting for carbon dioxide emissions, let alone trapping the gas, are in their infancy.
And many companies, the head of the U.N. warned last year, are not making a good faith effort. 


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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9117 on: November 17, 2023, 09:27:17 AM »
What is a U.N.?
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9118 on: November 17, 2023, 10:55:51 AM »
Can 'Extreme' 800-Mile Ocean Pump Save the Great Salt Lake? (msn.com)
Can 'Extreme' 800-Mile Ocean Pump Save the Great Salt Lake? (msn.com)
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9119 on: November 17, 2023, 12:51:54 PM »
Fed Chair Powell is ignoring the greatest threat to our economy: climate risk | The Hill

This, to me, is just dumb, the editorial.  And this guy claims to be some professor.  This is twaddle on many levels.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9120 on: November 17, 2023, 12:55:00 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 17, 2023, 12:51:54 PM
Fed Chair Powell is ignoring the greatest threat to our economy: climate risk | The Hill

This, to me, is just dumb, the editorial.  And this guy claims to be some professor.  This is twaddle on many levels.
Jennie C. Stephens is a feminist, scholar-activist, writer, social-justice advocate and collaborator.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9121 on: November 17, 2023, 12:59:07 PM »
I'm a bit disappointed a fairly reputable site would publish her "thoughts" on such a bizarre notion.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9122 on: November 17, 2023, 01:05:53 PM »
I'm rather curious on her stances when it comes to being a feminist and a social justice advocate. Some of those streams cross.

Story for another topic, however - and best left elsewhere.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9123 on: November 17, 2023, 02:24:58 PM »
A bad recipe for science | Climate Etc. (judithcurry.com)

what is going on represents more than politically motivated consensus enforcement and cancel culture. Climate change has become a secular religion, rife with dogma, heretics and moral-tribal communities. The secular religion of climate change raises concerns that are far more fundamental than the risks of bad policy.  At risk is the fundamental virtues of the Scientific Revolution and the freedom to question authority.

The road ahead requires moving away from the consensus-enforcing and cancel culture approach of restricting dialogue surrounding complex societal issues such as climate change. We need to open up space for dissent and disagreement.  By acknowledging scientific uncertainties in the context of better risk management and decision- making frameworks, in combination with techno-optimism, there is a broad path forward for humanity to thrive in the twenty-first century and beyond.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9124 on: November 17, 2023, 05:12:45 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 17, 2023, 12:51:54 PM
This, to me, is just dumb, the editorial.  And this guy claims to be some professor.  This is twaddle on many levels.
have you sat down with many profs?
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9125 on: November 17, 2023, 05:15:30 PM »
Yes, yes I have.  I’d opine most are quite smart.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9126 on: November 17, 2023, 05:17:25 PM »
you obviously run in different circles than I
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #9127 on: November 18, 2023, 05:54:52 AM »
I would bet there is a difference depending on field, STEM vs not.
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