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Gigem

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7952 on: June 11, 2023, 09:57:23 AM »
Sure, I can find plenty more "experts" who disdain climate change.  He's entitled to his opinion, but he's a geologist, his opinion is no more expert than my own (and I have looked at the Moon often).

(Incidentally, my own opinion is not at all in march step with the IPCC.)
He’s a PhD from Harvard. He may not be an expert in climatology, but I’d say he knows a lot of things. I’m not saying the man is  right, but he’s not the only one. 

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« Reply #7953 on: June 11, 2023, 09:58:16 AM »

And while I tend not to dwell on this whole transgender craziness now we have all kinds of experts telling us what to think.


You tend not to dwell on it, but of the literally millions of things you could have chosen, you landed on that one.
Either don't lie to us or stop lying to yourself.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7954 on: June 11, 2023, 10:02:55 AM »
I’ve stated it before on here, but I’ll reiterate. I used to work in a olefins plant. We burned more hydrocarbons in one hour, possibly in one minute, than I will burn in my entire life. Hell, I’d bet we burned more in one furnace ( we had 10) than I may burn in my entire life. Now I know it’s additive, and millions of people have an effect. But when I think about my own emissions it’s like the literal drop in the ocean.
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« Reply #7955 on: June 11, 2023, 10:07:53 AM »
You tend not to dwell on it, but of the literally millions of things you could have chosen, you landed on that one.
Either don't lie to us or stop lying to yourself. 
Frankly, I’m tired of hearing about it. I work for a big woke company, and they are very much into trying to indoctrinate all of their employees to their own ideas and beliefs. I throughly reject most of the current transgender and gay push, I wish the media would stop reporting about it, and I don’t mind telling you how I feel. Because a lot of us constantly tell each other how they feel. 

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« Reply #7956 on: June 11, 2023, 10:12:31 AM »
I can find you some expert opinions that you will tell you a man can dress up as a woman and cut off their man parts and they're a woman.  So flame me all you want, but I think I'll vet my experts by a different criteria. 
Eh. I kinda take the Thomas Jefferson approach on this one. To paraphrase: "It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 57 genders or 2 genders. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

I know what gender I am. I really don't care what genders most of the rest of humanity are or claim to be.  

If Samuel is serious enough about his gender dysphoria to undergo transition, HRT, dress like a woman and tell me to call her Samantha, I'm gonna be respectful and call her Samantha. Only a jerk would argue with her. 

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« Reply #7957 on: June 11, 2023, 10:16:18 AM »
Eh. I kinda take the Thomas Jefferson approach on this one. To paraphrase: "It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 57 genders or 2 genders. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

I know what gender I am. I really don't care what genders most of the rest of humanity are or claim to be. 

If Samuel is serious enough about his gender dysphoria to undergo transition, HRT, dress like a woman and tell me to call her Samantha, I'm gonna be respectful and call her Samantha. Only a jerk would argue with her.
I tend to fall into this space. Except for the megaphone tha is being constantly blasted in my face by the media and woke culture. I’ll be respectful to the person, but I don't have to accept their beliefs, and I damn sure don’t need to hear about it constantly.

Just go about your business, mind your own business, and we’ll be alright. Try to force beliefs on me, we’ve got a problem.
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« Reply #7958 on: June 11, 2023, 10:19:45 AM »
He’s a PhD from Harvard. He may not be an expert in climatology, but I’d say he knows a lot of things. I’m not saying the man is  right, but he’s not the only one.
The "problem" in my opinion is that usually lay people form an opinion FIRST and then seek confirmation of said opinion, which is not hard to find.  His opinion is no more of value to me than the thousands of climatologists who say otherwise, nor is their collective opinion determinative for me personally.  I do read summaries of what "they" profess is true.  I give it some weight.  I also listen to "climate deniers" who appear to have a rational and "expert" opinion on the topic, and folks kind of in the middle like Judith Curry.  And I have tried to read primary literature on the topic.  Try being the operative term.

It's easy, and facile, to simply point to whoever agrees with what you've already decided.  It's MUCH tougher to read all legit points of view and some literature and come to some kind of probably murky opinion.

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« Reply #7959 on: June 11, 2023, 10:22:34 AM »
As for the gay thing, I've mentioned before we live in "Gay Central", one of the highest concentrations of gay folks in the country.  I almost never see PDA by gay folks when we're out and about.  Maybe the media focus on it unduly, but your average gay person from what I can tell is just going about his or her life.

"Atlanta’s original gayborhood, Midtown is the core of LGBTQ life in Atlanta. The intersection of 10th Street and Piedmont Avenue is considered the starting point for many LGBTQ visitors to the city. Not only is Midtown the cultural hub of Atlanta, it is also the home for gay nightlife in Atlanta and showcases just how diverse Atlanta’s LGBTQ community is."

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« Reply #7960 on: June 11, 2023, 10:26:44 AM »
Your right. It’s mostly coming from the media, both from the pro and anti crowds. The louder one group shouts, the louder the other group shouts back. I’m tired of all of it. 

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« Reply #7961 on: June 11, 2023, 10:30:05 AM »
If you effectively "turn off the news" in some sense, life goes on a lot better often as not.  I don't watch news, I do read it on line, it's faster, and I can ignore some item about what Taylor Swift did or said.  Some claimed the world would end when Trump was elected, some claimed that when Biden was elected, but in reality, life goes on in most ways.  (I know inflation has been bad, COVID was a shock, and a few other items).

I have to say I've learned to ignore or minimize most of the news these days, especially the items that are "social".  

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« Reply #7962 on: June 11, 2023, 10:40:28 AM »
If you effectively "turn off the news" in some sense, life goes on a lot better often as not.    
Exactly. If you don't like "the media", turn it off


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« Reply #7963 on: June 11, 2023, 10:49:45 AM »
Moving on to the other news thread por favor.
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« Reply #7964 on: June 11, 2023, 10:58:26 AM »


Exactly. If you don't like "the media", turn it off.


But then he can't gripe about it.
Claim he doesn't care one way or the other, but then lets the extremes on both ends irritate him to no end.
Some people who bitch about their arm itching need to stop rubbing themselves with poison ivy.
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« Reply #7965 on: June 11, 2023, 10:59:50 AM »
I very rarely watch any news media beyond local TV news.  I can't stand Fox News and all the rest (especially CNN), so believe me when I say I try to limit my exposure to all the negativity and hype.  And yet I'm still tired of it.  

The only point I was trying to make is that there are lots of "experts" out there, and lots of bad information.  Which is why you really do need to try and gather as many facts as you can before you decide.  

 

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