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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7826 on: June 07, 2023, 08:02:14 AM »
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« Reply #7827 on: June 07, 2023, 08:09:12 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on June 07, 2023, 08:02:14 AM
I guess the Chinese didn't get Obama's memo.
Or Al Gore's, John Kerry's, Greta's or or or 
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« Reply #7828 on: June 07, 2023, 08:20:18 AM »
The Chinese (and Indians) have an actual incentive to blow out as much CO2 as they can up until 2030, when they both agreed to start cutting (whether they do or not is, well, who knows).  It's easier to cut from a higher level than if they started cutting now.  They might close down a few old Coal burning plants after 2030 to look "good".
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« Reply #7829 on: June 07, 2023, 08:28:28 AM »
Meanwhile, "they" say "we" can't have gas stoves. And now "they" are coming after gas furnaces.

The biggest threat to our country is our unelected fourth branch of government.
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« Reply #7830 on: June 07, 2023, 08:39:59 AM »
When I moved to Cincy in 1980, new construction was prohibited from using gas furnaces due to a shortage of NG.  

One proposed reg on furnaces would prohibit any that weren't "efficient" (condensing types).  
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« Reply #7831 on: June 07, 2023, 09:21:20 AM »
We have no shortage of natural gas.
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« Reply #7832 on: June 07, 2023, 09:26:08 AM »
we did in the early 80s

we had gasoline rationing in the 70s
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7833 on: June 07, 2023, 09:27:09 AM »
"Have" being the operative term, they HAD one in Cincy back when.  Now, our house built in 1987 had an NG furnace, the restriction had been lifted by then.

It also had an "on demand gas water heater" (tankless) which turned out to be very finicky back then.  We even had two gas fire places.

We don't have gas here except for the large tank making hot water on the roof, which I find a bit odd.  Fortunately these heat pumps are very efficient.

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« Reply #7834 on: June 07, 2023, 09:28:08 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 07, 2023, 09:26:08 AM
we did in the early 80s

we had gasoline rationing in the 70s
Neither should have happened.
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« Reply #7835 on: June 07, 2023, 09:28:40 AM »
one reason I'm skeptical today about many tales of the sky is falling
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« Reply #7836 on: June 07, 2023, 09:49:18 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 07, 2023, 08:28:28 AM
Meanwhile, "they" say "we" can't have gas stoves. And now "they" are coming after gas furnaces.

The biggest threat to our country is our unelected fourth branch of government.
Heating in Texico is almost entirely natural gas.

Good luck going against the Oil and Gas guys.  If you think the defense contractors have a wealthy lobby and play dirty, well...
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« Reply #7837 on: June 07, 2023, 09:59:41 AM »
We used to do a lot of wind farm work. 

Our biggest client? 

BP.
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« Reply #7838 on: June 07, 2023, 10:17:09 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 07, 2023, 09:49:18 AM
Good luck going against the Oil and Gas guys.  If you think the defense contractors have a wealthy lobby and play dirty, well...
They ain't got nuthin' on the most powerfulest lobby evah.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #7839 on: June 07, 2023, 02:14:47 PM »
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If you get really interested in climate change perhaps ...

My new book Climate Uncertainty and Risk is now published!

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