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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1022 on: September 01, 2023, 11:00:36 AM »
all this realignment should've been in football only and kept all the other sports in the regional conferences they are already in.
Exactly.

The NFL doesn't carry volleyball and gymnastics around with them, and the CFB powers are trying to be... the NFL.
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« Reply #1023 on: September 01, 2023, 11:01:47 AM »
all this realignment should NOT HAVE been done in football and kept all the other sports in the regional conferences they are already in.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1024 on: September 01, 2023, 11:06:37 AM »
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idk I do like having Nebraska and Penn State in the B1G. can we keep those two plus Maryland, make the PAC go back and then kick out Rutgers and say Northwestern (RIP) and call it an even trade?

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« Reply #1025 on: September 01, 2023, 11:14:59 AM »
idk I do like having Nebraska and Penn State in the B1G. can we keep those two plus Maryland, make the PAC go back and then kick out Rutgers and say Northwestern (RIP) and call it an even trade?

No

Nebraska to the Big 8.  Oklahoma back to Big 8. PAC teams back to the PAC.  Texas, Arkie, TAMU back to SWC.  Penn State back to independent or whatever.

B1G back to Big Ten.

SEC back to 10.

PAC back to 10

SWC back to 9

Big 8 back to 8.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1026 on: September 01, 2023, 11:15:52 AM »
It's fun to dream I suppose.  I still wonder how the playoff scheme will change, I think it has to.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1027 on: September 01, 2023, 11:16:58 AM »
No

Nebraska to the Big 8.  Oklahoma back to Big 8. PAC teams back to the PAC.  Texas, Arkie, TAMU back to SWC.  Penn State back to independent or whatever.

B1G back to Big Ten.

SEC back to 10.

PAC back to 10

SWC back to 9

Big 8 back to 8.

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ACC? Big East?
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1028 on: September 01, 2023, 11:17:44 AM »
ACC? Big East?
Will be fine basketball conferences.

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« Reply #1029 on: September 01, 2023, 11:52:42 AM »
No

Nebraska to the Big 8.  Oklahoma back to Big 8. PAC teams back to the PAC.  Texas, Arkie, TAMU back to SWC.  Penn State back to independent or whatever.

B1G back to Big Ten.

SEC back to 10.

PAC back to 10

SWC back to 9

Big 8 back to 8.

I'd make a few tweaks from the 70s
PSU and ND to the TEN 
but, I really feel that overall TV ratings for the networks would be better if the regional rivalries were still intact.

Texas vs Arkie and Texas vs TAMU = better ratings than diluted in the SEC
Nebraska vs Colorado and K-State and OU, better ratings obviously
Mizzou vs the KAnsas schools better than SEC programs
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1030 on: September 01, 2023, 12:28:53 PM »
I'd make a few tweaks from the 70s
PSU and ND to the TEN
but, I really feel that overall TV ratings for the networks would be better if the regional rivalries were still intact.

Texas vs Arkie and Texas vs TAMU = better ratings than diluted in the SEC
Nebraska vs Colorado and K-State and OU, better ratings obviously
Mizzou vs the KAnsas schools better than SEC programs
No tweaks, no sir.

The Big Ten is the Big Ten.  No Big Televen.  No Big Notre Dameten.  Just the Big Ten. 

PSU can go form the Eastern Conference that JoePa always talked about.  Other independents like Miami and FSU can join if they like.

Notre Dame should stay independent, because that is the way it has always been and should be.

Tweaks are bad for college football, tweaks are how we end up with Oregon and Rutgers in the B1G and Cal and Stanford in the Atlantic Coast Conference.  No tweaks allowed.

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1031 on: September 01, 2023, 12:30:45 PM »
No tweaks, no sir.

The Big Ten is the Big Ten.  No Big Televen.  No Big Notre Dameten.  Just the Big Ten.

PSU can go form the Eastern Conference that JoePa always talked about.  Other independents like Miami and FSU can join if they like.

Notre Dame should stay independent, because that is the way it has always been and should be.

Tweaks are bad for college football, tweaks are how we end up with Oregon and Rutgers in the B1G and Cal and Stanford in the Atlantic Coast Conference.  No tweaks allowed.
I'm good with this because it preserves the rivalries that have been built over the decades
this makes for better TV ratings = $$$
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1032 on: September 01, 2023, 09:11:17 PM »
I'd make a few tweaks from the 70s
PSU and ND to the TEN
but, I really feel that overall TV ratings for the networks would be better if the regional rivalries were still intact.

Texas vs Arkie and Texas vs TAMU = better ratings than diluted in the SEC
Nebraska vs Colorado and K-State and OU, better ratings obviously
Mizzou vs the KAnsas schools better than SEC programs
This is now the only hope.  
But who is in charge?!?
NFL-lite is the obvious wrong outcome.  Why bother with college football then?  It's the XFL.  It's the USFL.  Yawn.
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Reinstitute the PAC under the B1G umbrella.  
Reinstitute the SWC/Big 8 under the XII umbrella.
Tell ND to buy in or it will be shut out.
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This incremental evolution chasing money with no one at the steering wheel is not a good long-term plan.  
College football needs someone in charge with a long-range mission.  
Eliminate the lie that G5 programs have any shot.  Just stop it.  Let there be a division between FBS and FCS.
The money-making conferences hold their 18-20-24 teams under their umbrellas, but divide them back up to 7-8 conferences.
Conf champs (and an at-large, if there's fewer than 8) into a playoff.  I'd go so far to even have the same conf champs face off each year instead of seedings.  (B1G vs PAC in 1st round every year, etc)
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We could make college football what we want it to be (what it once was) within the larger format it currently is.  There's an avenue, but it can only be navigated by someone in charge.  A group chasing an extra dollar attached to someone's fishing pole isn't going to get us there.
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1033 on: September 01, 2023, 09:15:17 PM »
Late to this, but …

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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1034 on: September 01, 2023, 09:43:07 PM »
This is now the only hope. 
But who is in charge?!?
the networks
Unfortunately, they're short sighted and not real smart
Maybe when the top 60 or so programs break out and sign a deal with the networks that distributes the $$$ differently, they will be so hungry for the best content, they'll realize regional rivalries value and line up the non-top 60 programs for games to make money
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Re: UW and UO to Big Ten ~ Memorial Day?
« Reply #1035 on: September 01, 2023, 11:08:30 PM »


Tweaks are bad for college football, tweaks are how we end up with Oregon and Rutgers in the B1G and Cal and Stanford in the Atlantic Coast Conference.  No tweaks allowed.
This.
Near-sighted money grabs.  No master plan.  Just unfettered evolution.  That's how you wind up with cuddlefish, platypus, and narwhals.  
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