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utee94

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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #266 on: December 03, 2020, 04:10:55 PM »
Two.  Wife, and 13yo daughter.

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« Reply #267 on: December 03, 2020, 04:17:08 PM »
Then you're certainly not over buying
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #268 on: December 03, 2020, 06:47:03 PM »
http://www.madehow.com/Volume-3/Fertilizer.html#:~:text=Primary%20fertilizers%20include%20substances%20derived,of%20natural%20gas%20and%20air.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process

The Haber process, one of the most significant innovations in human history, largely ignored.

Ammonia was first manufactured using the Haber process on an industrial scale in 1913 in BASF's Oppau plant in Germany, reaching 20 tonnes per day the following year.[12] During World War I, the production of munitions required large amounts of nitrate. The Allies had access to large sodium nitrate deposits in Chile (Chile saltpetre) controlled by British companies. Germany had no such resources, so the Haber process proved essential to the German war effort.[5][13] Synthetic ammonia from the Haber process was used for the production of nitric acid, a precursor to the nitrates used in explosives.
For a nation that is short of strategic raw materials, Germany sure managed to be in on the start of a couple of monstrous wars that demanded massive production of things that they couldn't produce naturally.
In both WWs, they were terribly short of crude oil.

The hghest-octane avgas the Germans could mass-produce in WWII was 87.  The U.S. mass-produced Avgas in grades up to 150 octane.

That meant that the Germans had to use lower-compression engines, so to get the same amount of power, they had to use much-bigger engines.

The Rolls-Royce/Packard-Merlin displaced 1649 c.i.  In the mid-war Merlin 61 variant, it could produce 1,580 hp at 23,500 feet on full supercharger with 100/130-grade avgas.

The mid-war Daimler-Benz DB-605AM displaced 2,176 c.i.  On its 87-octane avgas, it could produce 1,065 hp at 23,000 feet on full supercharger with water-methanol injection.
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« Reply #269 on: December 03, 2020, 07:23:20 PM »
One of the things that irks me all the time is people who think they gain some benefit from using higher-octane gas than their car recommends. 

The idea of higher octane is that it retards ignition--meaning it's harder to burn than lower octane.

This is important, as you point out, in very high compression performance engines. In those engines you need to retard ignition because the heat and pressure will cause ignition before the spark goes off if your octane is too low... Which is very very bad. Modern cars can compensate for this such that if you put 87 in a car that recommends 93, it won't be horrible, but it's not good.

If your car DOESN'T have high compression ratios, there is literally no benefit whatsoever to higher octane than your owner's manual recommends. You're throwing money right down the drain. 

I liken it to the misplaced idea that people have that bottled beer is better than canned, because premium beer comes [actually should be past tense now that so many craft beers have canning lines] in bottles. But bottles are actually inferior packages to cans in almost every way, yet people will fool themselves to think beer tastes "better" out of a bottle because they associate bottles with premium. 

Same with cars. High-end sports cars require higher octane, so people assume it must be better gas. But it's not. It's actually in one way worse [harder to ignite] but that's a benefit in a high-compression engine. It's no benefit otherwise. 

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« Reply #270 on: December 03, 2020, 07:24:35 PM »
We need minimum 91. What is sold is 93. I did find 92 at Costco here, but it's a 45 minute drive.
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« Reply #271 on: December 03, 2020, 07:27:59 PM »
Texas was the first state I'd ever seen 86 before, when I moved cross-country like 12 years ago.  Jesus, time flies. 
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« Reply #272 on: December 03, 2020, 10:00:51 PM »
i also have a crap-ton of toilet paper.  I'm the toilet paper czar of Austin Texas.

TP is one of the few things you can't buy too much of. It addresses something you will not stop doing any time soon (hopefully). 

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« Reply #273 on: December 04, 2020, 07:24:38 AM »
I noticed that in Colorado, gas is 85 and 87.5 octane. Is that due to altitude?

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« Reply #274 on: December 04, 2020, 07:47:09 AM »
One of the things that irks me all the time is people who think they gain some benefit from using higher-octane gas than their car recommends.

The idea of higher octane is that it retards ignition--meaning it's harder to burn than lower octane.
As you may know we've been excersizing our snoblowers recently and they said stay away from anything with ethanol as it is hard on gaskets/seasls/o-rings.Some one suggested 89 instead of 87 and my rebuilt 1980 TORO is running like a raped ape.I'll find some 87 over at Shell/Marathon and mix just to play it safe
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« Reply #275 on: December 04, 2020, 07:55:21 AM »

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« Reply #276 on: December 04, 2020, 07:56:15 AM »
I liken it to the misplaced idea that people have that bottled beer is better than canned, because premium beer comes [actually should be past tense now that so many craft beers have canning lines] in bottles. But bottles are actually inferior packages to cans in almost every way, yet people will fool themselves to think beer tastes "better" out of a bottle because they associate bottles with premium.
Truth!!! Brewers have been lining cans with wax I believe for quite some time.Light is the real enemy of beer and this has been proven.And even dark bottles let a little in and artificial light is almost as bad.But I'm preaching to the choir
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« Reply #277 on: December 04, 2020, 07:58:00 AM »
Old,bitter,drunken 94 just a stirrin' up the pot
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« Reply #278 on: December 04, 2020, 08:06:05 AM »
Hey I'm not drunk!

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« Reply #279 on: December 04, 2020, 08:22:58 AM »
Wouldn't shock me if Urbz got his jock on one last time.But Life in the booth is just easy money comparatively
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