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Topic: Urban to Tejas?

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utee94

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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2020, 11:37:44 PM »
Because .600 at Iowa St is great and at Texas is below average.  Iowa St is 24-19 (.558) in conference games under Campbell.  In this current configuration of the Big 12 ISU was 7-29 (.194) in conference play before Campbell got there and has been consistently lousy in any configuration of the Big 12.

If you are looking at Campbell and Herman as just a couple of .600 coaches you are using zero context.
If you love Campbell so much why don't you marry him?

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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2020, 11:43:20 PM »
If you love Campbell so much why don't you marry him?
He’s a millionaire, right?  Don’t tempt me.

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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2020, 12:29:46 AM »
Prove that Herman inherited a roster of 4* and 5*.  This is your assertion.  Prove it.
Based on 247 composite rankings, the 2011-15 classes (from which that 2015 roster would have been comprised)

2011
  • Texas - #4 nationally, #1 Big XII (14 4/5*)
  • ISU - #59 nationally, #12 Big XII (0 4/5*)


2012
  • Texas - #2 nationally, #1 Big XII (22 4/5*)
  • ISU - #67 nationally, #8 Big XII (0 4/5*)


2013
  • Texas - #17 nationally, #2 Big XII (9 4/5*)
  • ISU - #63 nationally, #9 Big XII (1 4/5*)

2014
  • Texas - #17 nationally, #2 Big XII (8 4/5*)
  • ISU - #59 nationally, #10 Big XII (1 4/5*)

2015
  • Texas - #10 nationally, #1 Big XII (14 4/5*)
  • ISU - #64 nationally, #9 Big XII (0 4/5*)

Herman inherited a roster that in terms.of recruiting rankings, was neck and neck with Oklahoma's.  Campbell's was duking it out with Kansas for the Big XII cellar.  So the fact that they are even even over four years , and trending very differently is enough for me.  Campbell might fail at Texas, it seems to be a crapshoot, but I don't see any evidence that he would.



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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2020, 01:06:43 AM »
Prove that Herman inherited a roster of 4* and 5*.  This is your assertion.  Prove it.
The roster the year before he got there had one five-star, 39 four-stars and 39 three-stars it ranked 11th in total star talent.

The roster his first year had 1, 35 and 39, though I cannot tell you what happened with attrition and how his first class looked. That group was 13th in total star talent.

The roster now has 4, 49 and 30 and ranks fifth in total star talent. It has losses to teams ranked 9th, 28th and 57th in total talent. 

(I've stated my reservations about Campbell before, and I believe winning with less talent is at times a different skill than winning with more. That state keeps burping out coaches, so perhaps one of them takes it)  

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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2020, 01:08:51 AM »
If you're the Texas AD you have to make him say no. I don't think he'll come back, but Texas might be one of the few jobs that might make him think about it seriously and maybe even say yes.

Here's a 5 year, $12 million per fully guaranteed contract. Here's total and complete control. Here's the largest budget in the country for recruiting. Here's the largest budget in the country for assistants, and here's the largest budgets in the country for strength training, nutrition, and support staff.

Have to basically kiss his ass royally and give him a deal that's too good to pass up.
I'm obviously no expert on this subject, but it seems like there are complicating factors at Texas.  It's not just recruiting plus exes and ohs equals championships.
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2020, 05:42:47 AM »
None of us are experts, I surmise, duh.  But we have opinions anyway.

Damn right.

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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2020, 07:45:53 AM »
I think coaching hire rumors crop up every year about this time, often the ones that get noticed are some High Profile Coach going to a HP Program.  Not many outside the state are wondering who ends up at South Carolina.  I could start a rumor easily based on nothing that could get traction and passed around as a thing, when it's really a nothing.

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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2020, 07:47:05 AM »
I think the best question is who takes a shot with Hugh Freeze?

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« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2020, 07:53:04 AM »
I think the best question is who takes a shot with Hugh Freeze?
Tennessee 

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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2020, 08:37:48 AM »
If you love Campbell so much why don't you marry him?
Damn that was thrown down,maybe 94's bird wasn't cooked thru.Or he's passionate and wants to resurrect Daryl Royal
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« Reply #52 on: November 28, 2020, 08:40:28 AM »
Tennessee
Be a good place for him,the Reverend could bless the fleet each season
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #53 on: November 28, 2020, 08:41:43 AM »
Let's imagine for the moment that the PTBs at Texas are serious about getting UM.  How many people would know if that were the case?


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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #54 on: November 28, 2020, 08:44:00 AM »
 I could start a rumor easily based on nothing that could get traction and passed around as a thing, when it's really a nothing.
Well you'll need a more gullible group than this.Try one of the Buckeye Boards - and add insiders confirm URBZ to Austin is a done deal after the season - you got it from a premium board
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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #55 on: November 28, 2020, 08:53:57 AM »
None of us are experts, I surmise, duh.  But we have opinions anyway.

Damn right.
I'm the guy to see about facts - ask that Bird giving me lip beak what happened Thursday.Speaking of bird,Cindy made this damn fine Turkey Salad that was her grand moms recipe.Onion,relish,dash of sugar - diced up what was left of the white/dark meats.Into the food processor it went and mixed with mayo in a big bowl - tasty way to stretch it
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