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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2022, 08:55:17 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on March 08, 2022, 08:25:36 PM
Sure. But you asked about the postseason, which exists to entertain and make money, because just using the regular season is boring.
I thought the postseason was an opportunity for the championship to be won on the field.  

Why change to a playoff from what we had before?  
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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2022, 08:58:09 PM »
Wright St-Northern Kentucky was a good watch.
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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #58 on: March 08, 2022, 09:00:34 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 08, 2022, 08:55:17 PM
I thought the postseason was an opportunity for the championship to be won on the field. 

Why change to a playoff from what we had before? 
It is an opportunity to win it on the field. That is more fun and more entertaining and results in more fans and more money. 
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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #59 on: March 08, 2022, 09:02:43 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 08, 2022, 08:15:44 PM
So it's not:
a winner of first prize or first place in entertainment value
or
a winner of first prize or first place in money made


Right?
Right.  The NCAA Tournament is a competition.  The winner of that is the champion.  Everyone agrees on that.  The discussion centers around who gets to participate in the competition.
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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #60 on: March 08, 2022, 09:10:25 PM »
Gonzaga-St Mary’s as the WCC Final is approaching death and taxes territory.
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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #61 on: March 08, 2022, 09:15:50 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on March 08, 2022, 09:02:43 PM
Right.  The NCAA Tournament is a competition.  The winner of that is the champion.  Everyone agrees on that.  The discussion centers around who gets to participate in the competition.
Yep. The wild card NY Giants beat the 18-0 Patriots, and you know what we call them?

Super Bowl Champions. 

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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #62 on: March 08, 2022, 09:23:04 PM »
Is that what we want though??
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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #63 on: March 08, 2022, 09:31:51 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 08, 2022, 09:23:04 PM
Is that what we want though??
“We” is a big word.  It might not be what you want.  It might not be what I want, but it is what some people want.
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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #64 on: March 08, 2022, 09:43:35 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on March 08, 2022, 09:00:34 PM
It is an opportunity to win it on the field. That is more fun and more entertaining and results in more fans and more money.
Below a certain seed, it's not an actual opportunity - thus the big lie.  
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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #65 on: March 08, 2022, 09:44:34 PM »
Just looked this up.  The last time the WCC Final didn’t have either Gonzaga or St. Mary’s in it was 1994.  That’s insane.  
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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #66 on: March 08, 2022, 09:50:09 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on March 08, 2022, 09:44:34 PM
Just looked this up.  The last time the WCC Final didn’t have either Gonzaga or St. Mary’s in it was 1994.  That’s insane. 
That's shallow.....a shallow conference.....with an automatic bid.
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« Reply #67 on: March 08, 2022, 09:52:12 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 08, 2022, 09:43:35 PM
Below a certain seed, it's not an actual opportunity - thus the big lie. 
The opportunity to say they played in it means something too.
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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #68 on: March 08, 2022, 09:54:49 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on March 08, 2022, 09:52:12 PM
The opportunity to say they played in it means something too.
Hmm, the "it's something good for the players" idea.

I happen to think being "conference tournament champions" and winning your last game in a triumphant moment is better than celebrating an automatic bid to be destroyed in your last game ever (for a vast majority of these guys) by a 2 seed on national TV.  

But I'm probably wrong.
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Re: Understanding the NCAA Tournament
« Reply #69 on: March 08, 2022, 10:00:10 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 08, 2022, 09:54:49 PM
Hmm, the "it's something good for the players" idea.

I happen to think being "conference tournament champions" and winning your last game in a triumphant moment is better than celebrating an automatic bid to be destroyed in your last game ever (for a vast majority of these guys) by a 2 seed on national TV. 

But I'm probably wrong.
Do you think the players on these 15 or 16 seeds would agree with you?
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