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Re: Top 25
« Reply #224 on: November 12, 2019, 12:17:24 AM »
yup, tomorrow Bama doesn't have the resume to be top 4
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #225 on: November 12, 2019, 12:18:03 AM »
Baloney, fool.  You specifically mentioned Alabama and them being better than any one loss conference champion.  That the committee should worry about picking the "best" teams based upon???(sec bias)???  You can go back a page or two and read your own posts, right?
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« Reply #226 on: November 12, 2019, 12:34:51 AM »
You mean all of the things your question omitted?
All of those things were included in the question.  Now you're just messing with me.
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #227 on: November 12, 2019, 12:35:51 AM »
The discussion is about the final poll, no?  Why on earth would tomorrow's poll matter in the slightest???
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« Reply #228 on: November 12, 2019, 12:37:53 AM »
Baloney, fool.  You specifically mentioned Alabama and them being better than any one loss conference champion.  That the committee should worry about picking the "best" teams based upon???(sec bias)???  You can go back a page or two and read your own posts, right?
Please quote where I said Alabama is better than any 1-loss champion.
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« Reply #229 on: November 12, 2019, 12:40:40 AM »
Now you're jumping around about final 5 rankings - not sure where that came from.Bama isn't/doesn't belong that is a fact(right now) but that can change.We can't transport our beliefs into the play offs,they win - they're in.Because Bama played LSU close doesn't give them the same resume' or the right to ride those coat tails into a play off
I've been talking big-picture this whole time.  Tomorrow's poll is virtually meaningless.

And your last sentence is silly.  Yes, who you play and how you perform matters.  Holy hell, the Big Ten knows this - the committee has proven getting blown out by a crap team is a big no-no.  

All of this resume-only, ignore context talk is scary.
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« Reply #230 on: November 12, 2019, 12:44:34 AM »

But the real point is that there can be SEC bias AND the SEC can have more strong teams than the other conferences.
You keep circling back to this narrative perhaps you don't see it from getting dizzy.There is more but you are implying thru the tea leafs that bama belongs by confronting those with an opposite take almost immediately
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #231 on: November 12, 2019, 12:59:47 AM »
I've been talking big-picture this whole time.  Tomorrow's poll is virtually meaningless.

And your last sentence is silly.  Yes, who you play and how you perform matters.  Holy hell, the Big Ten knows this - the committee has proven getting blown out by a crap team is a big no-no. 

All of this resume-only, ignore context talk is scary.
You'd start an argument in an empty elevator you've confronted at least 3 different people just tonite nothing's silly but your slanted misguided reasoning.I'm watching the transformation from Dr Jekyll to Gary Danielson.Tommorow's poll has a ripple effect moving forward that is a fact that agitates you.The Best anyone not named LSU can do in the SEC is hope other conference leaders get tripped up.And context means your point of view to be taken seriously.Explain to the rest of us - in your galaxy how is "context" measured
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #232 on: November 12, 2019, 01:14:30 AM »
Please quote where I said Alabama is better than any 1-loss champion.

Why do you keep backtracking?

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I'm not pro-Alabama, I'm explaining that it makes sense for them to be included at 11-1 when the committee's goal is the 4 best teams.  This isn't complicated, despite the pages and pages of posts.  Whether it's right or wrong doesn't matter.

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« Reply #233 on: November 12, 2019, 01:19:32 AM »
You'd start an argument in an empty elevator you've confronted at least 3 different people just tonite nothing's silly but your slanted misguided reasoning.I'm watching the transformation from Dr Jekyll to Gary Danielson.Tommorow's poll has a ripple effect moving forward that is a fact that agitates you.The Best anyone not named LSU can do in the SEC is hope other conference leaders get tripped up.And context means your point of view to be taken seriously.Explain to the rest of us - in your galaxy how is "context" measured
Tomorrow's poll only matters if you don't believe the committee will be swayed by future results in a different way than the AP and Coaches' polls are (blindly moving everyone up when someone loses).  
If it's truly a snapshot, this poll doesn't necessarily influence future polls.  I realize no one trusts the committee, but in what reality would you?
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #234 on: November 12, 2019, 01:24:44 AM »
Why do you keep backtracking?

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How are explaining what the committee may do vs the suggestion that Alabama is better than conference champs is the same thing.  I was simply saying it wasn't some horrible, outrageous thing.  
And to make it Alabama specific - it is fair to say with their roster and if they go 11-1, a group of people considering them one of the 4 best teams is prudent.  No one can say it's right, but it's reasonable.  

I don't care about Alabama, but the way everyone is hung up on them must make their fans chuckle.
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« Reply #235 on: November 12, 2019, 01:26:54 AM »
I really do believe that if Alabama had lost to Texas A&M and eventually wound up winning the SEC West, they'd get more credit for it than losing a close game to LSU and not winning their division.


Odd.  That's rewarding outcomes of games Alabama has no hand in (hypothetically).
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #236 on: November 12, 2019, 01:30:13 AM »
But they didn't and they're not so outside of that you're spot on
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #237 on: November 12, 2019, 01:42:07 AM »
How are explaining what the committee may do vs the suggestion that Alabama is better than conference champs is the same thing.  I was simply saying it wasn't some horrible, outrageous thing. 
And to make it Alabama specific - it is fair to say with their roster and if they go 11-1, a group of people considering them one of the 4 best teams is prudent.  No one can say it's right, but it's reasonable. 

I don't care about Alabama, but the way everyone is hung up on them must make their fans chuckle.

Alabama failed on their home field in one of their few attempts to pick up a big win.  Their resume at the end of the year won't matchup to the rest of the 13-1 conference champs.  For the same reasons that Baylor and Minnesota were ranked low on the CFP rankings, Alabama should have to deal with the same consequences.  They simply won't have the wins to justify placement.  Maybe a nice Sugar or Orange Bowl for Alabama this year.

 

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