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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Top 25
« Reply #210 on: November 11, 2019, 11:49:20 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 11, 2019, 11:46:43 PM
Per strength of record, it is more impressive.  Hell, having 2 losses with Florida's schedule is more impressive.if you are going to simplify it down to W/L

I was hoping we were more 3-dimensional than this.
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #211 on: November 11, 2019, 11:50:52 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 11, 2019, 11:46:43 PM
Per strength of record, it is more impressive.  Hell, having 2 losses with Florida's schedule is more impressive.if you are going to simplify it down to W/L

What Bama's strong loss resume builder?
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #212 on: November 11, 2019, 11:52:24 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 11, 2019, 11:44:11 PM
Yeeeesh.  Not touching this one.

Too much truth in there?  Can't possibly envision a world where SEC Alabama isn't the best one loss team?

The SEC and their fans truly have a ridiculous sense of entitlement.  It's almost like we have the Group of Five, the Power Four, and the SEC.
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #213 on: November 11, 2019, 11:52:28 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 11, 2019, 11:48:23 PM
What's wrong are your assumptions.We have a narrow sample sizes,they had had their chance they blew it.Since they don't play the other schedules we including you don't know.Pages and pages don't neccessarily agree with you,Bama can wait for others to lose.Ohio State in 2015 were defending National Champs and undefeated but lost at home to number 9 MSU.Bama wasn't defending NC - so you see justice rears it's ugly head
Words like "should" and yours - "justice".......this is what I disagree with.  When a team is ranked 5th in the final rankings, whether a conference champ or not, it won't be an injustice....it'll be a certainty.
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #214 on: November 11, 2019, 11:53:50 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 11, 2019, 11:49:20 PM
I was hoping we were more 3-dimensional than this.
You asked a simple question about simply a record.  The numbers say Alabama's 1 loss record is not impressive at this point.
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« Reply #215 on: November 11, 2019, 11:55:49 PM »
Quote from: RestingB!tchFace on November 11, 2019, 11:52:24 PM
Too much truth in there?  Can't possibly envision a world where SEC Alabama isn't the best one loss team?

The SEC and their fans truly have a ridiculous sense of entitlement.  It's almost like we have the Group of Five, the Power Four, and the SEC.
No.
Didn't want to touch it because this isn't just about Alabama or the SEC.  Replace Alabama with Georgia.  With Minnesota.  With Ohio State.  With Penn State.  The point is the same.  
A 1-loss non-champ can be better than a conference champ AND warrant a spot in the playoff.  Regardless of conference affiliation.  I'll never understand the problem with this statement.
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #216 on: November 11, 2019, 11:57:24 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 11, 2019, 11:53:50 PM
You asked a simple question about simply a record.  The numbers say Alabama's 1 loss record is not impressive at this point.
Record and conference and year.  You know, context.
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #217 on: November 12, 2019, 12:02:20 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 11, 2019, 11:52:28 PM
Words like "should" and yours - "justice".......this is what I disagree with.  When a team is ranked 5th in the final rankings, whether a conference champ or not, it won't be an injustice....it'll be a certainty.
Now you're jumping around about final 5 rankings - not sure where that came from.Bama isn't/doesn't belong that is a fact(right now) but that can change.We can't transport our beliefs into the play offs,they win - they're in.Because Bama played LSU close doesn't give them the same resume' or the right to ride those coat tails into a play off
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #218 on: November 12, 2019, 12:03:36 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 11, 2019, 11:55:49 PM
No.
Didn't want to touch it because this isn't just about Alabama or the SEC.  Replace Alabama with Georgia.  With Minnesota.  With Ohio State.  With Penn State.  The point is the same. 
A 1-loss non-champ can be better than a conference champ AND warrant a spot in the playoff.  Regardless of conference affiliation.  I'll never understand the problem with this statement.

Baloney, fool.  You specifically mentioned Alabama and them being better than any one loss conference champion.  That the committee should worry about picking the "best" teams based upon???(sec bias)???  You can go back a page or two and read your own posts, right?
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #219 on: November 12, 2019, 12:04:13 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 11, 2019, 11:57:24 PM
Record and conference and year.  You know, context.
You mean all of the things your question omitted?
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #220 on: November 12, 2019, 12:08:56 AM »
are we talking about Bama being deserving of a top 4 spot in tomorrow's poll or at the end of the season?

if we are talking about tomorrow, I'd say no, too many other unblemished records

if we are talking about the end of the season, how did the top 15 teams finish?

if we're just talking about SEC and Bama bias, we're just agreeing
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #221 on: November 12, 2019, 12:11:43 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 12, 2019, 12:02:20 AM
Now you're jumping around about final 5 rankings - not sure where that came from.Bama isn't/doesn't belong that is a fact(right now) but that can change.We can't transport our beliefs into the play offs,they win - they're in.Because Bama played LSU close doesn't give them the same resume' or the right to ride those coat tails into a play off
the committee has played, best loss, in the past
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #222 on: November 12, 2019, 12:11:49 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 11, 2019, 11:57:24 PM
Record and conference and year.  You know, context.
Here's some context Bama lost...at home....with 2 weeks to prepare....and got waxed in last years Play Off.That doesn't smack of either preference or entitlement until some other programs lose,the illusion of belonging will remain just that
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Re: Top 25
« Reply #223 on: November 12, 2019, 12:15:16 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 12, 2019, 12:11:43 AM
the committee has played, best loss, in the past
Ohio State,Clemson,Oregon and Oklahoma would have to lose for that to take affect for Bama
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