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The No Stupid Questions Thread
« on: August 30, 2024, 02:25:58 PM »
As the title states. 

I’m sure I could find the answers on the internet, but I prefer our discussions. 

So, for example, how did they track the years BEFORE the whole AD calendar thingy. I do know the calendar has been changed over time, and I’m not under any impression that they knew it was x,xxx BC. 

I’m obviously referring to Western Civilization. Lets narrow it down to Roman’s. 

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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2024, 02:47:30 PM »
How can a door be a jar?
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2024, 02:48:14 PM »
If it’s not a road and it’s not an island why do they call it Rhode Island?


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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2024, 02:57:12 PM »
Why does sour cream have an expiration date?
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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2024, 02:58:07 PM »
As the title states.

I’m sure I could find the answers on the internet, but I prefer our discussions.

So, for example, how did they track the years BEFORE the whole AD calendar thingy. I do know the calendar has been changed over time, and I’m not under any impression that they knew it was x,xxx BC.

I’m obviously referring to Western Civilization. Lets narrow it down to Roman’s.
Without looking it up (the spirit of this thread) I know the Japanese and I think the Romans also used years of the Emperor or King's reign.  So if @Gigem became emperor of the B1G board by slaying a dragon or whatever on August 30, 2024 the rest of 2024 would still be named for the prior Emperor (I think they stuck to Emperor in place at beginning of year) but then January 1, 2025 would be January 1 of the first year of the reign of @Gigem .  

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2024, 03:00:32 PM »
Without looking it up (the spirit of this thread) I know the Japanese and I think the Romans also used years of the Emperor or King's reign.  So if @Gigem became emperor of the B1G board by slaying a dragon or whatever on August 30, 2024 the rest of 2024 would still be named for the prior Emperor (I think they stuck to Emperor in place at beginning of year) but then January 1, 2025 would be January 1 of the first year of the reign of @Gigem
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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2024, 03:01:42 PM »
As the title states.

I’m sure I could find the answers on the internet, but I prefer our discussions.

So, for example, how did they track the years BEFORE the whole AD calendar thingy. I do know the calendar has been changed over time, and I’m not under any impression that they knew it was x,xxx BC.

I’m obviously referring to Western Civilization. Lets narrow it down to Roman’s.
I googled it and it took me to Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_era

Looks like a lot of different options. The Greeks did it based upon the date of the first Olympics.   It seems like the Romans had multiple at different times in their history, one being related to a taxation cycle, others related to the founding of Rome and to the periods of rule of various emporers, etc. Essentially they all had a system, but it wasn't uniform across civilizations (and like the Romans show, not always uniform across their own over time.)

Various non-Western civilizations had ways described there. They reference the Assyrians who named each year based upon an annual festival they held. And it's not like they did this because they didn't have a numerical system--apparently they had a base 60 numerical system and it appears to be the reason today that we base time on a 60-second minute, a 60-minute hour, and that we divide a circle into 360 degrees. All from a civilization that existed ~5,000 years ago. 

Fun stuff. 

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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2024, 03:06:33 PM »
The concept of time has always fascinated me. Obviously, it pre-dates the Romans.

Egyptians had a concept. Mesopotamia relied on astrology. Pretty sure the early civilizations in Central Africa did not have a concept.

As for the Romans, they used a solar calendar. That much I know.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2024, 03:17:04 PM »
Does a straw have one or two holes?

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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2024, 03:18:52 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2024, 03:21:47 PM »
Why do we drive on parkways, but we park on driveways?
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2024, 03:32:48 PM »
How young can you die of old age?
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Re: The No Stupid Questions Thread
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2024, 03:39:30 PM »
The names of months is interesting, of course September should mean the seventh month, as once it did, before July and August were added, named for Julius and Augustus Caesar.  I've read that the 1912 Russian Olympic team showed up two weeks late because they were using the wrong calendar, the old one, that kept getting further and further off of the seasons.

The days of the week are named for Norse gods.  

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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2024, 04:39:44 PM »
I've read that the 1912 Russian Olympic team showed up two weeks late because they were using the wrong calendar, the old one, that kept getting further and further off of the seasons.
This is due to the switch from the Julian Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar.  

The principal change was that leap years were reduced from every fourth year to  . . . not quite every fourth year as defined below:
  • Every year evenly divisible by four is a leap year except that
  • Years that are also evenly divisible by 100 are not leap years except that
  • Years that are evenly divisible by 400 ARE leap years.  

Thus:
  • 1896 WAS a leap year (divisible by 4)
  • 1900 was NOT a leap year (divisible by 4 but also divisible by 100)
  • 2000 WAS a leap year (divisible by 400).  

When the Romans made the Julian Calendar they approximated a year as 365.25 days so they made a 365 day year and added a leap year every fourth year.  It actually takes the earth 365.2422 days to revolve around the sun so one leap year every four years is a little too much.  

The problem it caused was that the timing of various festivals and religious holidays was slowly creeping seasonally.  The old (Julian) calendar was off by approximately one day every century.  The new (Gregorian) calendar is still not QUITE exact but it is only off by one day approximately every 7,700 years.  

Interesting trivia about adoption:
The Gregorian Calendar is so named in honor of Pope Gregory who was Pontiff in Rome when it was first adopted in 1582.  However, adoption took many centuries.  England and the Nordic countries were some of the last in Europe to adopt it for the rather obvious reason that they were NOT Catholic and therefore wanted nothing to do with a Catholic calendar named for a Pope. Thus it wasn't adopted in England (and also British Colonial America) until 1752.  Consequently, if you google George Washington you will find that he was born on either February 11, 1731 or February 22, 1732.  When he was born it was recorded as occurring on February 11, 1731 but the English adoption of the new calendar (they didn't and still don't officially call it the 'Gregorian Calendar') they moved the start of the year from March 25 to January 1 and lopped fast-forwarded 11 days.  

Interesting (to me anyway) trivia question:
What happened in France on the dates from December 10, 1582 through December 19, 1582 inclusive?
Answer:
Absolutely nothing.  Nobody was born, nobody died, there were no wars, there weren't even any strikes or riots.  When they adopted the Gregorian Calendar they had to advance so December 9 was followed immediately by December 20.   

 

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