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Topic: The Helmets (and near helmets) rolling 10-year winning percentages

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Re: The Helmets (and near helmets) rolling 10-year winning percentages
« Reply #126 on: May 26, 2020, 06:51:25 PM »
However, we are never going back to that, so if we are going to have a playoff go to 6 teams (5 power conference winners and 1 additional team) and no more.

Many myself included like that model since the beginning.Win your conference or tough.The majority of theses kids are still students and not NFL bound.So stretching the season doesn't benefit them.Also more NFL bound kids will just sit it out as more games equal a higher chance of injury.With marquee palyers will just opt out so there will be a bif fat * next to every other champion moving forward.
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Re: The Helmets (and near helmets) rolling 10-year winning percentages
« Reply #127 on: May 26, 2020, 07:28:03 PM »
I admit I am an old fart, I like the old bowl system, where winning the Big Ten and getting the Rose Bowl mattered. Then lets argue who is the best team in the country.

However, we are never going back to that, so if we are going to have a playoff go to 6 teams (5 power conference winners and 1 additional team) and no more. . . .
Oh, you mean 5 power-conference winners plus a second SEC team.  ;)
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Re: The Helmets (and near helmets) rolling 10-year winning percentages
« Reply #128 on: May 26, 2020, 07:28:54 PM »
Maybe he means the top four SEC teams and a couple from some other conference just for show.

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Re: The Helmets (and near helmets) rolling 10-year winning percentages
« Reply #129 on: May 26, 2020, 07:52:56 PM »
Don't forget Clemson.
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Re: The Helmets (and near helmets) rolling 10-year winning percentages
« Reply #130 on: May 26, 2020, 07:53:23 PM »
Rose:  B10 vs PAC
Fiesta:  Big12 vs SEC
Sugar:  SEC vs SEC
Orange:  ACC vs SEC
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« Reply #131 on: May 26, 2020, 07:54:34 PM »
Or if you're old school:
Rose:  B10 vs PAC
Fiesta:  Independent vs SEC
Cotton:  SWC vs SEC
Orange:  Big 8 vs SEC
Sugar:  SEC vs Sacrificial Lamb
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« Reply #132 on: May 26, 2020, 07:56:18 PM »
Many myself included like that model since the beginning.Win your conference or tough.
I liked the old model.  Go undefeated and do it impressively enough that you are one of the two top ranked teams
or tough
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Re: The Helmets (and near helmets) rolling 10-year winning percentages
« Reply #133 on: May 26, 2020, 07:59:34 PM »
The way I look at it, there are really only two options:


  • The old system where we all agreed that the national championship was based on human subjectivity.
  • A system where it gets settled "on the field" and there's one, true, undisputed champion.

I'm fine with #1.

But neither the BCS nor the CFP are a good example of #2. 


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« Reply #134 on: May 26, 2020, 08:00:08 PM »
The masses will wait for 5 undefeateds from P5 conferences, then cry outrage!  
It's only a matter of time, especially how things are now.  Clemson, Ohio St, and OU basically own their conferences.  All you need is for Alabama to go undefeated and someone to take charge in the Pac-12, and you have it.

And when it does, I'll bet you a dollar the odd man out will be west of the Mississip.
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Re: The Helmets (and near helmets) rolling 10-year winning percentages
« Reply #135 on: May 26, 2020, 09:13:44 PM »
The way I look at it, there are really only two options:


  • The old system where we all agreed that the national championship was based on human subjectivity.
  • A system where it gets settled "on the field" and there's one, true, undisputed champion.

I'm fine with #1.

But neither the BCS nor the CFP are a good example of #2.


I don’t get why the BCS or CFP isn’t a good example of settling it on the field.  It is settled on the field. You might not agree with the process of how the teams get there but it is settled on the field.

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« Reply #136 on: May 26, 2020, 10:51:18 PM »
agreed

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Re: The Helmets (and near helmets) rolling 10-year winning percentages
« Reply #137 on: May 27, 2020, 01:50:37 AM »
I don’t get why the BCS or CFP isn’t a good example of settling it on the field.  It is settled on the field. You might not agree with the process of how the teams get there but it is settled on the field.
Because it's only "settled on the field" in the final game or three.
The major talking point leading up to the adoption of the playoff was "settle it on the field."
Repeated over and over again as if it were a magical incantation.
As if nothing had ever been settled on the field until the BCS NCG or CFP.
But--back to the case we were discussing--who was better between LSU and Bama in 2011 had presumably already been settled on the field.  Where is the "settling it on the field" when LSU would have had to beat Bama twice to be national champs, but Bama only had to beat LSU once?
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« Reply #138 on: May 27, 2020, 02:44:36 AM »
Rematches like that have happened throughout history.  Hell, most of you all clamored for one in 2006.  
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Re: The Helmets (and near helmets) rolling 10-year winning percentages
« Reply #139 on: May 27, 2020, 07:20:52 AM »
Any time you feature two top teams on a neutral field, you usually are down to who gets a few breaks in the game.  It doesn't really settle which team is genuinely better.


 

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