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Kris61

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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2018, 11:51:28 PM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on June 15, 2018, 10:19:52 PM
I voted Vick.   He was a collegiate game changer.   This is a great group.
My eye is going to start twitching having these conversations.  He wasn’t really a game changer for the collegiate game. The NFL finally decided to start giving some of these black, dual threat, option style QB’s a chance.
It actually started a couple of years earlier when the Eagles took McNabb second overall.  Vick ran the option out of the I formation.  Your Corhuskers had been doing this for years.  Syracuse had been doing it a decade with guys like Don McPherson, Marvin Graves, and McNabb.  And, yes, one of the reasons the love for Vick as an innovator bugs me is WVU had done it with Major Harris.
Vick was the fastest player I had ever seen play the position.  I’ll give him that.  But I never viewed him as someone who changed the game.  What he was doing had been done for years and his production out of it wasn’t really any better than what others had done.  The NFL’s change in mindset on these guys had already begun with the McNabb selection.
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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2018, 01:00:55 AM »
Well the democratic process allows for voters' misconceptions, so....yeah.  Vick is all eye-test.  He was the fastest QB ever.  He also had one of the strongest arms ever.  But his stats aren't special, when compared to all-time greats.  You mentioned Marvin Graves, who I'm afraid will be lost to time, having worn 5 before McNabb did, and Major Harris.  But hell, VT had their own 'first' QB of Vick's ilk in Maurice DeShazo.  

I'm only going to be crabby about #7 voting if a certain someone doesn't end up voting for John Elway, lol.
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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2018, 07:24:35 PM »
Nice work OAM.
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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2018, 08:37:58 AM »
I went with Vick.
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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2018, 08:45:56 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 15, 2018, 10:16:29 PM
sorry, wasn't really complaining.......

more, just commenting that with the quality of this list, a great #7 like Frost doesn't make the cut

I don't have a problem with it.

I like the list
And Scott Frost certainly wouldn't have begged for votes...oh wait, nevermind
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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2018, 11:27:21 AM »
I don't think he would beg for himself, I guess we will find out if he stays at UNL long enough

he would beg for a great man other than himself, obviously

that would not be Eric Crouch
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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2018, 12:52:32 PM »
vick
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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2018, 01:10:44 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 16, 2018, 01:00:55 AM
I'm only going to be crabby about #7 voting if a certain someone doesn't end up voting for John Elway, lol.
I showed up and voted. And I wasn't the only one for Elway, so there. :-)
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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2018, 01:46:53 PM »
I wish Johnny would have stuck with baseball
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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2018, 06:24:33 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on June 18, 2018, 01:10:44 PM
I showed up and voted. And I wasn't the only one for Elway, so there. :-)
Thank you
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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2018, 07:02:21 PM »
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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2018, 08:57:34 PM »
Which century is that?  lol
Actually, in looking at the offense, uh oh, they have Munoz.  Look at the first-teamers on offense....all very successful in the NFL.  Zero differentiation between college and pro.  

Our exercise is not that.
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Re: The Best #7
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2018, 11:07:51 AM »
I know (success in the pros--although Reggie Bush doesn't necessarily fit that mold), but I couldn't resist.

The century was the Pac-8/10/12's first century--not the most obvious.
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