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Topic: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3178 on: May 12, 2025, 04:45:51 PM »
I guess it's "sporty".  For me, driving a manual convertible of about any ilk would be more fun on a twisty stretch.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3179 on: May 12, 2025, 04:51:01 PM »
As for handling, way back when I was in school I'd often ride my bike to school.  It was a ten speed, nothing fancy.  I'd go roaring past other folks on 18 speeds locked in the wrong hear pedaling ponderously up a hill.  I'd yell "DOWN SHIFT" as I passed, to no avail.  They had fancy bikes with no clue how to use them.
That was one of the most fun things on a motorcycle. I was riding as Suzuki SV650S, at about 66 hp, and a top speed of about 135 mph. And I was out on a racetrack passing guys on bikes like a Ducati 748 or a Yamaha R1. Fancy bikes but no clue how to use them. Probably riding slower because they had too much HP and were scared of the bike tossing them if they got on the throttle too hard in a corner*. 

Of course, I'm not saying I was that quick. Plenty of guys I knew who rode the same SV650 could dust me on the track. And then there was the kid (<16 years old, junior racer type) one day who was tailing me coming out of the final turn on his Aprilia RS250, dove to the inside of me on the entry to turn 2, and was flat out GONE by turn 4... 

But there's absolutely NOTHING I've ever done that was as exhilarating as riding a motorcycle on a racetrack. Not even skydiving. If you fancy adrenaline, it's about the biggest legal "high" that exists in this world. 

(* Of course, getting on the throttle too hard in a corner at 75 mph and having an epic highside wasn't so fun...)

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3180 on: May 12, 2025, 04:53:59 PM »
illegal for me - not many race tracks in this area
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« Reply #3181 on: May 12, 2025, 07:33:06 PM »
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3182 on: May 13, 2025, 07:00:07 AM »
I agree with the comment above that most folks who buy these "sports cars" buy them for acceleration.  They rarely touch any handling limits if ever.  It could be amusing to buy a sedan that can dust off some "sporty cars" I think "Q cars", they can be called.

I'd rather have, for me, a "sporty car" that is fun to drive even if a bit on the slow side.  I do like a nice exhaust note.  The old 240i convertible had one, I thought, and was pretty sporty to me with a manual (and not all that slow either).

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« Reply #3183 on: May 13, 2025, 08:10:16 AM »
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3184 on: May 13, 2025, 08:13:01 AM »
It might be interesting to compare and contrast with the exhaust note of the Z06.  

C8 Z06 Corvette Exhaust Revs Sound


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3185 on: May 13, 2025, 08:56:28 AM »
I have, can't decide which I prefer
I suppose I should have one of each or just decide that the one I have is a bargain since I enjoy it.
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3186 on: May 13, 2025, 08:57:35 AM »
I rather like the lumpy regular V8 exhaust sound, I guess I'm more used to it.  The flat plane thing sounds ... foreign.

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« Reply #3187 on: May 13, 2025, 09:01:08 AM »
The 1987 Turbo Buicks — the GNX, Grand National, and Regal Turbo-T — represent some of the most legendary turbocharged performance cars of the 1980s, combining raw power with understated style.
1987 Buick GNX: A limited-edition performance beast, the GNX was the ultimate version of the Grand National, equipped with a 3.8-liter turbocharged V6 producing 276 horsepower and 360 lb-ft of torque. With its distinctive blacked-out look and enhanced suspension, the GNX could accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in under 5 seconds, making it one of the fastest cars of its era.
1987 Buick Grand National: This model was known for its sleek black exterior, high-performance 3.8-liter turbo V6 engine, and strong acceleration. It produced 245 horsepower and 355 lb-ft of torque, earning a reputation for its street racing prowess. It was a popular muscle car with a dark, menacing look.
1987 Buick Regal Turbo-T: A less aggressive, but still potent, version of the turbocharged Regal, the Turbo-T featured the same 3.8-liter V6 engine, but with fewer performance upgrades than the Grand National. It was a more affordable option with a focus on both performance and luxury.
All three models combined luxury with incredible performance, and their turbocharged engines became a hallmark of Buick’s performance cars in the '80s. The GNX, in particular, is regarded as a high-performance collector's car today.


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3188 on: May 15, 2025, 12:58:33 PM »
At the 1964–1965 New York World’s Fair, the Ford Mustang made its dazzling public debut, capturing the imagination of a generation and marking a seismic shift in American automotive culture. Unveiled on April 17, 1964, just days before the fair opened, the Mustang was showcased at the Ford Pavilion in a spectacular rotating display that underscored its sleek design and youthful appeal. Visitors were drawn in by its sporty silhouette, long hood, and short rear deck—styling cues that broke from the conservative norms of the era and spoke directly to the aspirations of younger drivers looking for performance, style, and affordability.

What made the Mustang’s introduction at the World’s Fair so memorable wasn’t just its striking looks, but the immersive experience Ford created around it. The car was the centerpiece of the "Magic Skyway," a futuristic ride designed by Walt Disney and powered by a moving platform that carried guests through scenes of history, science, and innovation—while seated in brand-new Ford vehicles, including the Mustang itself. This ride didn’t just present the Mustang as a product, but as a symbol of progress, adventure, and the forward-thinking spirit of the 1960s. It was a marketing masterstroke that embedded the Mustang into the cultural consciousness from the outset.

The response to the Mustang’s debut was explosive. Ford sold over 22,000 Mustangs on the very first day, and more than 400,000 in the first year alone, far exceeding projections. The car’s presence at the World’s Fair helped cement its place as an icon of American ingenuity and style. That moment in Flushing Meadows was more than just the launch of a new model—it was the birth of the “pony car” segment and the beginning of a legacy that would span generations. The Mustang at the World’s Fair remains a powerful image of innovation, optimism, and the allure of the open road.


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3189 on: May 15, 2025, 01:06:26 PM »
Such an iconic vehicle.  Someday I will have my 65/66.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3190 on: May 15, 2025, 01:30:09 PM »
My friend's dad got him a 64 1/2 Mustang that needed gobs of work done to the engine.  It was black, and cosmetically in good shape, so it was pretty sharp.  We spent a good portion of that summer trying to fix that thing up, and/or begging his dad for $, faster, to get it fixed up sooner.  We eventually got it going with a lot of help with mechanical expertise from his dad.  Man, getting through gears in that thing was nothing like today's manual transmission vehicles.  This was not only before I knew how to drive a stick, it was really before I knew how to drive anything, really.  When I later got a "modern" 5-speed, I stalled out a lot while getting the hang of the clutch.  That Mustang though, what I remember about it is that it didn't seem to care how clumsy I was with the clutch.  It just caught a gear and started plowing, with me ostensibly in control, but not really.  That engine was not looking for an excuse to die like my pansy Ford Escort.  The Mustang wanted to geaux.  

Also, why was his dad letting us drive that thing around the outskirts of BR when neither of us had a license?  This was 1994, not "the old days" like geezers talk about where there were apparently no laws and no consequences.  

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3191 on: May 15, 2025, 01:34:43 PM »
outskirts = rural
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