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Topic: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3038 on: May 01, 2025, 10:32:54 AM »
those attempts at "scheduled" maintenance are recommendations
folks with no common sense about vehicles will usually fall for them
the guys at the shop are required to try to sell you - just like the salesman with the extended warranty
I just smile at my guy and shake my head, he smiles and goes back to work
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3039 on: May 01, 2025, 10:34:58 AM »
I think this has been posted around here before, for what it's worth.  BMW actually shows out pretty well, Merc and VW not so much.



Seeing Toyota up at the top comports with all the Toyota owners I know.  Almost always happy with the reliability, they say.  

My Hyundai came from a time when it was higher up lists like these, I believe.  At least mine in particular has hardly ever needed repairs and appears ready to run until the Apocalypse*, and it's 17 years old now :o  A local mechanic I know tells me he gets a lot more Hyundai repairs in now with the newer models and he's not overly impressed with them.  

*dammit.  I'm more likely than not going to drive this car until it just dies, and if it won't, that means I won't get something newer anytime soonMiddle-class problems.  

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3040 on: May 01, 2025, 10:36:41 AM »
I personally don't find CR to be at all credible.  They would do "studies" on things I knew something about and they were ALL in every case amateurish and at times clearly biased.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3041 on: May 01, 2025, 10:37:37 AM »
Just had my yearly maintenance done on the Benz.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3042 on: May 01, 2025, 10:37:52 AM »
My own personal rankings of car brands I've owned looks like this:

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3043 on: May 01, 2025, 10:41:51 AM »
Oh, right, I forgot about utee's Toyota-hate.  So not everyone I know reports positive experiences with Toyotas.  

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« Reply #3044 on: May 01, 2025, 10:42:32 AM »
Dude, you and I were agreeing!  MDT is the odd man out.
Sorry... Only 1/2 cup of coffee deep at that point...

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« Reply #3045 on: May 01, 2025, 10:44:15 AM »
Oh, right, I forgot about utee's Toyota-hate.  So not everyone I know reports positive experiences with Toyotas. 
I mean, clearly ours was a lemon, the objective metrics and most folks' personal anecdotes support Toyota as being a reliable brand.

But my personal experience with that car-- and the Toyota dealers around town-- was so extremely bad, that I will never buy another one. 

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3046 on: May 01, 2025, 10:50:02 AM »
Brand loyalty and/or aversion is a funny thing.  I know Hyundai is rated "meh" these days and as mentioned I've had a mechanic tell me he perceives reliability issues with them.  Yet mine has been so reliable, and the seat so comfortable for me, that it's hard to gear my brain toward thinking about buying something else next time. 

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« Reply #3047 on: May 01, 2025, 10:51:50 AM »
Brand loyalty and/or aversion is a funny thing.  I know Hyundai is rated "meh" these days and as mentioned I've had a mechanic tell me he perceives reliability issues with them.  Yet mine has been so reliable, and the seat so comfortable for me, that it's hard to gear my brain toward thinking about buying something else next time. 
Hyundai basically reverse-engineered M-B engines. Smart move.
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« Reply #3048 on: May 01, 2025, 10:54:02 AM »
Benz?  Huh, I wouldn't have thought Hyundai engines had much in common with Benzgines.  

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« Reply #3049 on: May 01, 2025, 10:55:45 AM »
They do. Although not the same level of power (Genesis is closer there) in the basic models.
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3050 on: May 01, 2025, 11:27:31 AM »
I mean, clearly ours was a lemon, the objective metrics and most folks' personal anecdotes support Toyota as being a reliable brand.

But my personal experience with that car-- and the Toyota dealers around town-- was so extremely bad, that I will never buy another one.
As I recall, it was a Solara or something not very common.  I don't think I've ever heard the full story, I'd be interested in hearing about it.  

I've had two Toyota's.  2016 Camry that was rock solid until a 17 year old girl sideswiped it trying to pass.  Insurance totaled it.  130K very trouble free miles.  Got $12k from insurance, only paid like $21-22K brand new in 2016.  Very plain, 4 cylinder passenger car.  
My son drives a 2017 Tacoma 4x4.  We bought used at 40K miles in 2020 just before the COVID shortages hit, very rock solid but we had to replace the transmission at 120K, which I was a little disappointed in.  

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3051 on: May 01, 2025, 11:36:09 AM »
It was a 2003 Toyota Camry Solara convertible.  It had major electrical issues, gremlins that no dealer or mechanic was ever able to sort, despite happily taking my money for never fixing anything.  It went through 4 batteries and 3 alternators in maybe 10 years.  It left my wife and/or me stranded countless times by working fine until we got to a place, and then simply not starting when we wanted to leave.

My experience with and basic knowledge of electricity tells me this was quite possibly a grounding issue, and some of the various mechanics identified it as such on a couple of occasions, but nobody was ever able to actually correct the issue.

Good Lord I grew to hate that car.  I was so delighted to trade it in and exchange it for the notoriously unreliable Jeep that replaced it.  We've now had that Jeep for 5 years and not one single issue with it, just standard scheduled maintenance.

 

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