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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #896 on: August 18, 2022, 03:37:10 PM »
My rental in CA was a black Honda Civic.  I'm used to rental cars being boring, this one was probably the best rental I've had this side of the pond.  It had a sun roof for example and accelerated, braked, and handled quite well for a very basic model.  It got about 38 mpg according to the computer.  The ride was perhaps on the firmer side but I prefer that.  I could live with such a vehicle, though it's not really very sporting.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #897 on: August 23, 2022, 03:26:08 PM »
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #898 on: August 23, 2022, 10:33:42 PM »
Chevrolet Lead Engineer Reveals How The New Z06 Handles Better Than The Standard C8 Corvette


YouTuber Speed Phenom (Austin Everett) recently posted a POV video in the Corvette C8 Z06 at Laguna Seca Raceway. His latest video, though, offers even more insight into the car as he talks with one of Chevy's lead engineers from the Corvette team at the track regarding the Z06’s handling attributes.

Austin Everett speaks with Mike, one of the lead engineers for the Z06’s suspension setup. Being the most track-focused C8 Corvette ever, he wanted to delve into the important questions that racing fans might be wondering about.

Austin starts off by asking if there are any key points to highlight about the new FE7 suspension with the MagneRide on the Z07 package. Mike says that he believes the biggest factor is the “notion that the suspension had to be brought up to the same level as the rest of the car”, especially with the visceral engine; the chassis ultimately had to match that.

Austin also asked if someone would be able to feel the difference between a C8 Z06 Z07 and a standard Z06 Z51. Mike ultimately says yes, because when it comes to the FE7 and FE6 cars, the spring rates are higher on the former. Mike also reiterates the fact that the ride frequencies on the C8 Z06 with the Z07 package are about 30 percent higher than on one with the Z51 package. The spring rate differences along with the damping, he says, bring a whole new level of platform support to the mid-engined Corvette.

Mike says that one of the coolest features on the new Z06 (FE6 and FE7) is probably Chevrolet’s use of a helper spring. With the spring rates on the C8 being so high, Chevy used a helper spring that sits in tandem with the coil spring to allow for a full rebound. With this setup, you still get that spring retention, but you didn’t give up wheel travel to get it.

Moving on to the Cup 2 R tires and the carbon fiber wheels, Austin asks if drivers are getting a new calibration for the setup. Mike says that for Magneride, Chevy was able to keep a common calibration no matter if you had the aluminum or carbon fiber wheels. As you go from FE6 to FE7, however, there is a steering calibration difference that comes with the carbon wheels. There’s enough of a difference in steering feel, quickness, and directness that it required its own calibration.

Austin concludes that the FE7 Z07 package is ideal for those looking to get the most aggressive setup possible. The standard Z06 with the Z51, however, is perfect for anyone who enjoys more street composure. It all comes down to your personal use. The Corvette offers a spec for both sides of the spectrum and the C8 is certainly a winner in any respect.

With those points said, Austin tells Mike that he strongly believes people need to run the car stock first to really get a feel for what the C8 can do before changing anything out. After all, the all-new Corvette C8 Z06 was born to win and comes ready to do just that.
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #899 on: August 24, 2022, 05:43:06 AM »
The regular C8 is so fast for street use .... I dunno.  

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #900 on: August 24, 2022, 12:40:22 PM »
Ed Zachery

the Z06 is just for status and perhaps the very rare off chance of blowing by someone on the autobahn or interstate that otherwise could keep up with the reg C8

well, status of having the sound of that Z06 engine noise

FE7 Z07 package??  the track
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #902 on: August 26, 2022, 09:07:21 AM »
Some are not.  I recall test driving a Mustang II in about 1975, it was truly awful in every respect.

I've rented 3 Mustang convertibles that were entirely pedestrian, one was a V6 and two were the turbo 4s with the 10 speed.

I'm sure the 5.0 is spiffy.

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« Reply #903 on: August 26, 2022, 09:14:31 AM »
Many Mustang clubs don't even admit those mid-late-70s era "Mustang II" owners.  It's not considered to be a Mustang, but rather a rebadged Pinto.

My 1983 Mustang GLX convertible was not particularly sporty, but it looked good.

My friend's 1988 Mustang GT, on the other hand, was plenty sporty for the era.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #904 on: August 26, 2022, 09:18:37 AM »
Going to the independent rear end helped the Pony cars.

Mustang has the DOHC engine while Camaro stuck with the "OHV" design, which rather amazes me today.  They have variable valve timing with the single cam and pushrods.

I've pondered getting a Mustang 5.0 convertible but keep deciding to be practical.  The GTI has a sunroof (which I rarely use).


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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #905 on: August 26, 2022, 09:22:43 AM »
Some folks like and will use their sunroof/convertibles, and some don't.  I'm definitely in the camp that does.

Including my wife's current daily driver which is a Jeep Wrangler, I've owned at least one convertible (and sometimes multiple ones) since 1993.  Wow, I just realized that's almost 30 years.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #906 on: August 26, 2022, 04:41:47 PM »
I forget the sunroof is there, but I usually am driving either a mile and a half to the Kroger or 500 miles at 80 mph.

My wife says she uses it a lot.  To me,  the sunroof is noisy and pointless.  I do like convertibles, and cabriolets.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #907 on: September 02, 2022, 04:36:48 PM »
During the 2022 Corvettes at Carlisle event, Corvette Executive Chief Engineer Tadge Juechter revealed that the top speed for the C8 Corvette Z06 would be 195 miles per hour. Meanwhile, Chief Engineer Josh Holder – Tadge’s right hand man – confirmed with CorvetteBlogger that the top speed of the 2023 Corvette Z06 with the high-downforce Z07 package will be 189 miles per hour.

The Z07 aero package add 650 pounds of downforce (which also counts as drag) and is the most aggressive aero package ever fitted to a production Corvette to-date, thanks to its two-post high wing, dive planes, and front splitter.

In Tadge’s own words:


This really is not a numbers car, we never intended to be…It was always intended to be the most pure expression of track and driver capability. That’s what we were thinking about, but the numbers are pretty good. You’ve got 670 horsepower, that’s very, very impressive. We published it before, but zero to 60 on this car is 2.6 seconds. So honestly, when we broke three seconds on the stingray, we were a little worried because this car isn’t a drag racer per se. We’re a little bit worried, but it pulls like crazy it, launches great, it’s got the big wide tire patches in the back so zero to 60 in 2.6 seconds. We haven’t really talked about it, in fact, we haven’t even done our testing at reveal, but the top speed of the car is 195 miles an hour which is pretty good.

It’s especially good given the downforce that we have on this car. The lift to drag ratio on this car is the best we’ve ever done, so you get pretty substantial downforce with reasonable drag and that lets you run to 195 miles an hour. Quarter mile 10.6 at over 130 miles an hour so even though it’s not a numbers car per se, it does vary respectively. But where it’s really going to shine, I believe, when we put the car out there is lap track times. That was its reason for being…all the decisions that went into it…we’re all focused on that, and so people who love to track their cars I think they’re gonna they’re probably set personal records at many tracks driving this car.
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #908 on: September 02, 2022, 06:59:13 PM »
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #909 on: September 02, 2022, 07:10:39 PM »
RANKINGS FORD MUSTANGS BY THEIR 0-60 TIMES


https://motor-junkie.com/rankings-ford-mustangs-by-their-0-60-times/2673/25/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=MJ10&utm_campaign=23849171616880305&utm_content=23849171616890305_23849171616900305&fbclid=IwAR3t4v7PbT9fsJwLVS_so_9j_gpy3UZ-9yzX4HkSlKIQCT_v_abycbaKqfA

Some of these are sporty, I think.
That’s the one I have -the 21 GT 500.

Yes, it’s quicker and faster than hell, almost scary.  More than you need on the street.
but I never had an interest in a Mustang until they built this one. Because this one has the grip and corning abilities of the exotics that cost three and four times as much.  Historically that has not been a strength of the Mustang. They put tremendous amounts of research and development into this vehicle and the grip on corners is beyond anything you could imagine if you don’t experience it yourself.
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