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he probably doesn't need a full back seat on the truck either

He wants a car with a back seat.  Even if it's small like in the GR86.  He'll be the first of his friends turning 16, and by many months, so he wants to be able to cart his bros around.

Is that immediately allowed in TX? Here, if you're under 18, you can't carry basically anyone for the first year you have your license.

In Illinois you had to be 18 to have passengers.

Florida? No idea, but there are no laws here.

Is that immediately allowed in TX? Here, if you're under 18, you can't carry basically anyone for the first year you have your license.

Technically it's not. Legally, you're only allowed to drive with people in your immediate family who live at your same address, plus one additional person who's not related to you.

In actuality, it is never enforced and nobody follows it.

On the one hand, I want to encourage my kids to obey the law.  On the other hand, I think it's a terrible law.

Instead of having 5 or 6 little Mike and Susies in one car with one dangerous teenage driver, now you're forcing that same group of 5 or 6 to get into three cars with three dangerous teenage drivers.

All the kids understand that if they get pulled over, they could get their licenses revoked until age 18.  But it's not something that ever actually happens.

Yeah, here you're not even supposed to drive with your siblings for that first year unless it's deemed "parental necessity".

So my son has a piece of paper from us saying that due to parental necessity, he drives his siblings to/from school and between his parents' houses, and any other time we deem it necessary.

In truth, I doubt he'd even be asked.

Man that's crazy.  I'd definitely say eff that.

My kids go and do a lot of stuff with their cousin (my niece, brother's daughter).  They live nearby and they've been raised more like siblings than like cousins.  She's not 16 yet so she only has a school ID that shows her having the same last name as my kids, with no address listed.  They figure they're covered.  I think it's pretty cute that they love spending so much time together, especially since she's an only child.

When our daughter started driving, and especially now with them at the same school and in the same extracurriculars, it gave us back something like 30-45 minutes per day of driving my son around to his school and events.

Yeah this was really the only year we had where my kids both overlapped.  Next schoolyear my son will turn 16 early, on 9/10, and then he won't need his sister to drive him around anyway (assuming all goes well and he passes his driving test of course...)

If I were him, I'd be all over this, which is what his granddad wants to buy for him since his granddad worked for GM for many years...

Don't have any actual pictures readily available, but my first was an '86 Crown Vic LTD.  Like this one, except mine was white, and not in as good of shape as this one pictured.  It was a rolling death trap.  The steering had problems past 45ish mph and something was very wrong with the acceleration from a full stop.  Also, it would randomly die while stopped, so at red lights and stop signs I learned to brake with my left foot and keep my right slightly on the gas pedal, because gunning it just a tiny bit kept the engine from dying.  Dad prohibited me from taking it out of the small town we lived in, but he needn't have worried....I wasn't about to try to get on the highway in that thing.  My old friends in Baton Rouge were stoked when they heard I got a car and kept wanting me to go visit.  I had to tell them as far as making it to BR was concerned, they might as well treat me like I still didn't have a car. 

That thing was roomy as hell inside though.  I could cart around 6 people easy in that thing.