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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18368 on: January 27, 2023, 12:04:29 PM »
college students

probably not in the engineering college
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18369 on: January 27, 2023, 12:06:13 PM »
NIH didn't track U.S. funds going to Chinese virus research, watchdog finds (yahoo.com)
NIH didn't track U.S. funds going to Chinese virus research, watchdog finds (yahoo.com)
how much of the trillions flowing through the federal government really gets tracked?
Especially funds sent overseas
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18370 on: January 27, 2023, 12:34:05 PM »
youre missing our whole point

there is a difference between dying with covid and dying from covid

the health authorities dont seem to know this even now
That's an obvious point and giving health-care providers a financial incentive yields predicable actions.  Duh.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18371 on: January 27, 2023, 12:38:11 PM »
We had precisely the wrong leader in power when this thing hit.  Completely independent of his politics or who he is as a person, when his sole message early on is "it'll go away," everyone who would eventually be hit hard by this thing was fucked.
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Secondly, there needed to be a clear message in the 2nd summer of it that if you're under the age of 60, relax.  Maybe wear a mask on a crowded subway or something.
As it was (and actually still is in some places), we have people driving around alone, wearing a mask.  We have local ordinances requiring a mask while walking outside or at a park.
Idiocy.  Lunacy.
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The bad thing when both "sides" are very wrong about something, they both get to point to the other and score points.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18372 on: January 27, 2023, 12:40:23 PM »
we've learned nothing
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18373 on: January 27, 2023, 12:43:43 PM »
We had precisely the wrong leader in power when this thing hit.  Completely independent of his politics or who he is as a person, when his sole message early on is "it'll go away," everyone who would eventually be hit hard by this thing was fucked.
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Secondly, there needed to be a clear message in the 2nd summer of it that if you're under the age of 60, relax.  Maybe wear a mask on a crowded subway or something.
As it was (and actually still is in some places), we have people driving around alone, wearing a mask.  We have local ordinances requiring a mask while walking outside or at a park.
Idiocy.  Lunacy.
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The bad thing when both "sides" are very wrong about something, they both get to point to the other and score points.
Who would have been the right leader?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18374 on: January 27, 2023, 12:44:34 PM »
college students

probably not in the engineering college
The pot-belied dude on the right might be an engineer.  Pretty likely that nobody else in those pictures is.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18375 on: January 27, 2023, 12:46:18 PM »
we've learned nothing
Eh, I think we've learned a lot.

Will we actually implement logical actions based on any of those learnings the next time a bug comes along?  I have my doubts.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18376 on: January 27, 2023, 12:49:02 PM »
The pot-belied dude on the right might be an engineer.  Pretty likely that nobody else in those pictures is.
Engineering students don't have time to eat or drink.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18377 on: January 27, 2023, 12:50:24 PM »
I think for many trust in government took a large hit, and hasn't recovered.  I recall distinctly how scary it was early on with so many unknowns.  We here were searching for reliable information on this thread.  Then it turned political, which could be expected.

Having so many unknowns gives rise to all sorts of "theories", some of which could be right.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18378 on: January 27, 2023, 12:54:03 PM »
I think for many trust in government took a large hit, and hasn't recovered.  I recall distinctly how scary it was early on with so many unknowns.  We here were searching for reliable information on this thread.  Then it turned political, which could be expected.

Having so many unknowns gives rise to all sorts of "theories", some of which could be right.


We would know a whole lot more if China and the funding agencies were honest. They are still lying to us.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18379 on: January 27, 2023, 01:01:11 PM »
Who would have been the right leader?
Anyone who would have taken it seriously and didn't send the message that went against all science, logic, and math.  
You.
Me.
Nearly anyone.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18380 on: January 27, 2023, 01:05:19 PM »
While I agree the degree of risk was minimized quite early, it didn't last very long, as I recall.  I'm not sure Trump's comments early on had any impact on how it was handled.  Verbiage is usually just that, sound and fury.

I look more at actions.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18381 on: January 27, 2023, 01:16:14 PM »
While I agree the degree of risk was minimized quite early, it didn't last very long, as I recall.  I'm not sure Trump's comments early on had any impact on how it was handled.  Verbiage is usually just that, sound and fury.

I look more at actions.

Nancy Pelosi - Chinatown - February 24, 2020 - YouTube
As do I.


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