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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16940 on: January 08, 2022, 07:20:36 PM »
Awkward, and true. Not by death, but if they report Covid, it's double than if it's not Covid.

It's criminal.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16941 on: January 08, 2022, 07:24:49 PM »
unfortunately, you're not in charge

the hysteria shows no sign of ending and no sign of sound policy based on anything solid
"has got to" and "must" seem silly

Sad but true.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16942 on: January 08, 2022, 07:27:04 PM »
Awkward, and true. Not by death, but if they report Covid, it's double than if it's not Covid.

It's criminal.
You mean from insurers?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16943 on: January 08, 2022, 09:23:10 PM »
Of course. And a lot of those people (90+ % if not more) have 3+ other things wrong with them. In Italy, it was close to 4 things. Covid pushed them over the edge. Still sad, but I can't see another way of looking at it.
Yeah, but the excess deaths numbers suggest that most of them wouldn't have died in the past two years, but for COVID... 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16944 on: January 09, 2022, 09:49:42 AM »
As I said, Covid pushed them over the edge.

As for the hospitals, they are (mostly) all getting federal funds in the event a case is Covid. 

Not Covid? No Fed funds.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16945 on: January 09, 2022, 10:10:53 AM »
My brother has the coronas now.  He was vaccinated, but Omicron really doesn't seem to care about that, with respect to transmission.  Pretty mild case, just some coughing and fatigue and a little achiness, like a mild cold or flu.  He thought it was just Cedar Fever because he gets bad allergies this time of year, but he went ahead and got tested because the cough is an unusual symptom for his annual seasonal allergies, and sure enough he tested positive.  Luckily he worked from home all week anyway so didn't come into contact with anyone after symptoms began.

By the timing of his first symptoms which began on Tuesday, he had to have been infected with it when our whole family went to New Mexico together and returned last Sunday.  But so far, no symptoms from any of the rest of us.  There were a couple of times when he went off on his own and that might be when it happened.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16946 on: January 09, 2022, 10:19:54 AM »
shouldn't be kissing those ladies from New Mexico

my brother also spent some holiday time in New Mexico, but no COVID as far as I know
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16947 on: January 09, 2022, 10:20:21 AM »
As I said, Covid pushed them over the edge.

As for the hospitals, they are (mostly) all getting federal funds in the event a case is Covid.

Not Covid? No Fed funds.

My uncle died either late 2020 or early 21....a guy in his early 80's who had been sick quite a while, nothing to do with COVID.  The hospital in Lake Charles he passed at initially put covid as his cause of death.  They only changed it because my aunt yelled at them about it.  Any hospital will stand its ground on COD when they know they're right.  You don't change that unless you're guilty of shenanigans. 

If they tried it with him, they tried it with others, many of whom won't know better or care.

If that hospital did it, others are doing it. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16948 on: January 09, 2022, 10:27:33 AM »
My brother has the coronas now.  He was vaccinated, but Omicron really doesn't seem to care about that, with respect to transmission.  Pretty mild case, just some coughing and fatigue and a little achiness, like a mild cold or flu.  He thought it was just Cedar Fever because he gets bad allergies this time of year, but he went ahead and got tested because the cough is an unusual symptom for his annual seasonal allergies, and sure enough he tested positive.  Luckily he worked from home all week anyway so didn't come into contact with anyone after symptoms began.

By the timing of his first symptoms which began on Tuesday, he had to have been infected with it when our whole family went to New Mexico together and returned last Sunday.  But so far, no symptoms from any of the rest of us.  There were a couple of times when he went off on his own and that might be when it happened.
Hope he gets over it quick

I have a scratchy throat but no fever 

I really have not been around anyone with it so Im hoping for the best

so far no other symptoms 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16949 on: January 09, 2022, 10:42:30 AM »
One poopy thing about this whole deal is you can't test the alternatives.  Whatever action we take, we'll figure out the consequences at some point, but we can only theorize before and after about courses of action we don't take. 

There is a working theory (emphasis on "theory,"....should not be taken to mean "this is what scientists are saying") that our vaccine method and timing has caused the virus to be as adaptive as it is.  We can't know that, but there's a logical mechanism behind it.  It's possible we made this thing worse in the long term.  So why do things the way we did them?  Because we only have data pointing to that possibility after we get to see the repercussions of the roads taken. 

Probably an average Joe such as myself can hardly grasp the complexity of a pandemic.  We've literally never seen it in our lifetime, and from what I can suss out, epidemiologists and virologists can't grasp it all in real time either.  We're also only used to dealing with naturally occurring viruses.  You can find uses and necessities for all those in the bigger environmental picture.  I wouldn't think that's the case with a man-made virus, and the larger point is likely how differently something man-made behaves vs. something naturally occurring.  The rate at which the original virus adapted from its spike protein (what the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines neutralized) was quite something.  You don't see mutations and responses like that in other viruses we're familiar with, so I'm told.  

We are officially out of a pandemic and now classified as endemic.  Probably to the surprise of no one.  Time for governments, media, and people to acknowledge there is no "beating" this thing, and get on with the business of figuring how to go back to normal in a reasonable way while mentally and emotionally accepting that there's now something new in the world that just might kill you, but not likely to, and that's okay, because that's been life for millions of years.  I want people to be safe and not die.  I also want people to stop committing suicide, kids to stop being developmentally stunted due to wearing masks, the economy not to be crap.....etc.  A strong economy, btw, as anyone who has done a smidge of research will tell you, is the most important societal factor in a population's long term health.  Can't depress the economy for an extended period of time and claim you're trying to medically protect your citizens.  It's ignorance, rhetoric, power-grabbing, something else I don't see, or a combination of all four.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16950 on: January 09, 2022, 11:13:15 AM »
My uncle died either late 2020 or early 21....a guy in his early 80's who had been sick quite a while, nothing to do with COVID.  The hospital in Lake Charles he passed at initially put covid as his cause of death.  They only changed it because my aunt yelled at them about it.  Any hospital will stand its ground on COD when they know they're right.  You don't change that unless you're guilty of shenanigans. 

If they tried it with him, they tried it with others, many of whom won't know better or care.

If that hospital did it, others are doing it. 
No doubt.  There have been other instances like this, and some have managed to make the "news" too.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16951 on: January 09, 2022, 11:13:59 AM »
Shenanigans. WTF.

DeSantis: Biden, Fauci 'hostile' to those focusing on COVID treatments in addition to vaccines | Fox News
DeSantis: Biden, Fauci 'hostile' to those focusing on COVID treatments in addition to vaccines | Fox News
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16952 on: January 09, 2022, 11:37:09 AM »
DeSantis is a big, red cartoon.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16953 on: January 09, 2022, 12:28:49 PM »
And the best Governor in the country, by far.
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