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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16100 on: October 27, 2021, 11:25:40 PM »
I don't feel any need to "get away with it" and avoid questions.  I'll go, when the guidance indicates I should.  The guidance is based on THE SCIENCE, so I'm good with following that.

I had a friend go and claim a co-morbidity. 

As we've discussed, all but the most slender on this board likely qualify. (I've not gone, though I need the flu shot since I get some money for it)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16101 on: October 28, 2021, 07:28:10 AM »
Yes, it's arbitrary. But it's also not.

We routinely break things into groups. 65 is a common one because it's "retirement" age.
But it is - the virus doesn't give a flying fook.Science for the sake of research and pitch points picked that number.Maybe because some people start letting themseves go if they retire then and expose themselves to different places like auto races or cruises ships to multiple places for say out of boredom or entertainment
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16102 on: October 28, 2021, 07:51:35 AM »
I have a history of bronchial infections (used to get 2-3 times per year - none since having Covid) and pneumonia (4 times total - been 6 years).
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16103 on: October 28, 2021, 07:56:23 AM »
These age groups are really traditional, 5-11, 12-17, those make some sense, and then 18-40whatever or 65, and 65+.  I imagine the studies break the data out that way.

We could do 66+ or 64+ and it wouldn't matter much.  I guess at 65 one is considered "old".  I'm in better shape right now than I was ten years ago.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16104 on: October 28, 2021, 10:26:32 AM »
I have a history of bronchial infections (used to get 2-3 times per year - none since having Covid) and pneumonia (4 times total - been 6 years).
And I'd guess that is, even if not officially listed as such, the sort of health history that would make someone under 65 want the booster despite the lack of an official recommendation that it's necessary. 

I'm not saying that the recommendation that people 65 and over get the booster means that we should make it illegal for a 64 year old to get one. That'd be daft. Health care is individual.

I am saying that there is value in identifying groups more likely to be high risk or low risk as groups, so typical people in those groups can identify relative risk. If you're atypical, i.e. if you have a propensity to have bronchial infections or pneumonia, then you need to substitute your own judgement and the recommendation of your own primary care physician who is familiar with your health history, rather than blindly following a recommendation. 


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16105 on: October 28, 2021, 10:27:49 AM »
My body, my choice.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16106 on: October 28, 2021, 01:56:54 PM »
We do have SCOTUS precedents for mandatory vaccinations back in 1906 or so.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16107 on: October 28, 2021, 02:27:19 PM »
We do have SCOTUS precedents for mandatory vaccinations back in 1906 or so.
we also have SCOTUS precedents for slavery if you go back far enough

I dont think todays SCOTUS would favor mandatory vaccinations in the situation we find ourselves today
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16108 on: October 28, 2021, 02:32:06 PM »
Old precedents may have been traversed by Amendments.  But old precedents not still carry some weight, stare decisis.

I have no idea how the current SCOTUS would rule on mandated vaccinations, it might depend on some technicality.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16109 on: October 28, 2021, 02:39:56 PM »

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16110 on: October 28, 2021, 02:54:16 PM »
Old precedents may have been traversed by Amendments.  But old precedents not still carry some weight, stare decisis.

I have no idea how the current SCOTUS would rule on mandated vaccinations, it might depend on some technicality.
pretty hard to rule against freedom
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16111 on: October 28, 2021, 09:32:57 PM »
I have no idea how the current SCOTUS would rule on mandated vaccinations, it might depend on some technicality.
This.  They would avoid it at all costs.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16112 on: October 29, 2021, 02:12:08 AM »
We have been trying to get my dad in AZ transferred from a stand alone ER to a hospital since about 5 p.m. central time. Eight hours later he is approved to go 70-miles away. No room in Tucson, tonight. Spread of COVID is pretty strong there, and in Iowa very strong here, too. Nationwide going down, but we are peaking in Iowa and AZ.

He is non-COVID.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16113 on: October 29, 2021, 07:54:58 AM »
Hospitals around here are also pretty busy, but not with Covid. It's other stuff, mostly caused by people neglecting their health for almost two years.
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