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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14897 on: August 13, 2021, 12:29:27 AM »
There are a lot of people that 
The rest of your sentence is irrelevant.  

People like you need to stop trying to crowdsource the truth.  You cant out-freedom the truth, either.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14898 on: August 13, 2021, 01:49:51 AM »
There is something to be said about Darwinism. Humans modified the equation a bit from survival of the strongest to survival of the smartest.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14899 on: August 13, 2021, 06:00:21 AM »
The rest of your sentence is irrelevant. 

People like you need to stop trying to crowdsource the truth.  You cant out-freedom the truth, either. 
You mad Fro?  Again? 😂

you dont care much for facts huh?

Your an odd one. 

Your a hot dog, that identifies as a taco. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14900 on: August 13, 2021, 07:29:33 AM »
There is something to be said about Darwinism. Humans modified the equation a bit from survival of the strongest to survival of the smartest.
It's not so much longevity that counts, but reproduction.

If my notion is correct, France should be peaking now and about to turn down.  The data are equivocal.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14901 on: August 13, 2021, 08:47:37 AM »
It has nothing to do with the constitution.  Please stop trying to mic-drop and actually defend your reasoning here.  You, HB, and longhorn never seem to have any actual backing to what you say, just "you're outnumbered here, a-hole!"
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The governor of FL is forbidding local leadership groups from making decisions based on what's prudent for them.  You know, PRECISELY what you were FOR back when this thing first started spreading everywhere.  You've completely reversed your position just because the FL governor is a far-right fella who confirms all of your biases. 
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Is there anything in the constitution about flip-floppers? 
I've reversed quite a lot of my positions on this. My reversals are based on facts available to me.

This time last year, I was fully mask compliant - as were the Florida Governor and POTUS. The messaging was that masks help. Now it is clear that they don't, unless you have a properly fitted N95 mask.

So, if this were really about keeping people "safe", wouldn't the government officials mandate properly fitted N95 masks for all?

As for local leaders making decisions based on what's prudent for them, I call bullshit. This is about nothing more than control. Sorry. Kids aren't spreaders. Masks don't work. The facts are out there, which I know is inconvenient.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14902 on: August 13, 2021, 08:50:30 AM »
yes but a very low number certainly low enough that older adults should still get vaccinated
I think at all older adults should be vaccinated, except for very rare instances.  not sure what those would be

and if I was a school board, I would require all teachers and staff over 40 years old to be vaccinated to enter the school
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14903 on: August 13, 2021, 10:10:13 AM »
the way I look at it is that this virus is nowhere near as deadly as it was initially made out to be. This is just fact. Even before we had any vaccines the actual mortality rate for relatively healthy people ages 0-55 was basically 0%. This was a virus that for the most part was killing the elderly (about half of all deaths were people in nursing homes), the obese (CDC reported 80% of hospitalizations were obese people), and the immunocompromised.

Yes, it's a bad virus, but it's not as dangerous as it's been made out to be, not even close. The vaccines are great, they are effective, safe, and they work- and the vaccines are readily available to everybody who wants one. If people want them- great. If they don't- well that's on them. If you're so deathly afraid of COVID- go get the vaccine- it'll protect you and you won't have to worry about it.

The governor of Florida is politicizing this crap- but he is just responding to the school boards in his state that are- wait for it....politicizing this crap.

Whatever happened to trust the science? Study after study has shown that children basically are 99.999999% not affected by COVID at all- even in the extremely rare instances they contract COVID they are asymptomatic like 99.999999% of the time, and oh yeah- the same studies show that children are not spreaders of the virus.

The vaccines are readily available and they work. Every adult that works at the school can take the jab or wear a mask. Putting a mask on the kids goes completely against the science. It's just politicizing this shit and all it does is give stupid people the illusion of safety.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14904 on: August 13, 2021, 10:15:12 AM »
I think at all older adults should be vaccinated, except for very rare instances.  not sure what those would be

and if I was a school board, I would require all teachers and staff over 40 years old to be vaccinated to enter the school
If I was your advisor Id tell you youre treading very close to an age discrimination lawsuit

Better to just require all teachers to be vaccinated
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14905 on: August 13, 2021, 10:22:53 AM »
fine

don't use common sense
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14906 on: August 13, 2021, 10:46:28 AM »
fine

don't use common sense
why start now
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14907 on: August 13, 2021, 03:54:19 PM »
Sad story about a pregnant woman who barely had time to hold her baby after it was born before being rushed to the ICU, and then not long after, dying from COVID:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-covid-mom-dies-birth-baby/

Now, even though that's a real story, obviously one case is anecdotal. So I post it primarily to cite this portion:


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Pregnant people are at a higher risk of having a severe illness from COVID-19, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and are more likely to have a pre-term birth or other adverse pregnancy outcomes. 
Dr. Lori Boardman, the chief quality officer at Orlando Health's Winnie Palmer Hospital for Women and Babies, told WKMG that her hospital is seeing more pregnant patients with severe cases of COVID-19 as the Delta variant surges through the state. 
"They definitely have pneumonia and are requiring oxygen," she said. "If the baby doesn't look good because sometimes the heart rates will slow, we're having to deliver babies before they're supposed to be born."
On Wednesday, less than a week after McMullen's death, the CDC strengthened its guidance to recommend all pregnant people get vaccinated against the virus. The agency cited new safety data, saying that "scientists did not find an increased risk for miscarriage" among women who received the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines.

Again I still haven't done enough research to say either way what my position is on whether pregnant women should get the vaccine; I haven't had to do so as it's not relevant to me or my peer group.


But I hope that any who do are not discounting that COVID is pretty serious and can be serious to themselves or their child, and ONLY thinking about the negative risk of the vaccine [which so far appears to not be meaningful].

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14908 on: August 13, 2021, 04:01:37 PM »
Dr. Scott Gottlieb expects coronavirus to be an 'endemic' virus in U.S. after delta surge (cnbc.com)
Dr. Scott Gottlieb expects coronavirus to be an 'endemic' virus in U.S. after delta surge (cnbc.com)

He expects a wave in the north as the south abates, interestingly.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14909 on: August 13, 2021, 04:36:35 PM »
I think at all older adults should be vaccinated, except for very rare instances.  not sure what those would be

and if I was a school board, I would require all teachers and staff over 40 years old to be vaccinated to enter the school
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