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FearlessF · « **Reply #14602 on:** August 06, 2021, 04:12:04 PM »

Quote from: Gigem on August 06, 2021, 01:37:31 PM

She then told me that this is going to sound horrible but she faked a vaccination card for her new job. She did not want to take the vaccine but had to for her new job so she basically forged a card. I have no idea the chances of getting caught etc, I feel like they are pretty low unless they really dig into the details which I feel they won't.

So there's that...

CNN has fired three employees who violated company policy by coming to work unvaccinated against the COVID-19 virus.

CNN chief Jeff Zucker told staff members of the firing in a memo sent Thursday that reminded them that vaccines were mandatory if they report to the office or out in the field where they come into contact with other employees.

"Let me be clear — we have a zero tolerance policy on this," wrote Zucker, chairman of news and sports for WarnerMedia.

The memo was obtained by The Associated Press after its contents were first tweeted by CNN media reporter Oliver Darcy. CNN offered no details on the firings, or where the employees were based.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #14603 on:** August 06, 2021, 04:58:27 PM »

I'm getting conflicting info on whether HR can ask people whether they've been vaccinated or not...

Our official policy in everywhere except the Bay Area (where the local counties have enacted more stringent policies) is that vaccinated people don't need to wear masks, and unvaccinated do. To enter the building you have to give a daily self-attestation of health where one of the questions is whether you're vaccinated, but "I decline to state" is actually an answer that you can select. Emails from HR have said that if you're not wearing a mask you can be required to provide proof of vaccination (with consequences up to and including termination if you're non-masked without being vaccinated), but my new manager has said that's bluster and they can't legally ask.

One of the members of the new team that I'm on just got COVID. She's a young-mid 20s healthy female and apparently lost taste and smell and has been horribly fatigued for over a week now--her boyfriend was the opposite, taste and smell ok but 103 fever. Sounds like it's been pretty rough for her, but obviously not hospital/ventilator rough.

I've spent the last week wondering whether she was vaccinated but wasn't going to ask... Then we had a [virtual] meet & greet with the SVP and she brought it up and *he* asked, and apparently she's not vaccinated.

So it apparently doesn't completely leave young people alone. But I'll bet her prognosis would have been a lot better with the shot.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #14604 on:** August 06, 2021, 05:02:40 PM »

I've mentioned my brother who thinks COVID is nothing much to worry about and won't get the vaccine because he'd rather trust his own immune system.

He's a pilot for United. United just announced that they're going to mandate that all US employees be vaccinated as soon as the vaccines receive full FDA approval, which is impending.

I'm seeing him tomorrow... Should I needle him over it? Or would that cause a scene as we're celebrating his wife's 50th birthday?

FearlessF · « **Reply #14605 on:** August 06, 2021, 05:57:02 PM »

I'd definitely needle my brother

but, off to the side as to not cause too much of a scene

longhorn320 · « **Reply #14606 on:** August 06, 2021, 06:24:54 PM »

never ski[ a chance to lay smack on your brother

utee94 · « **Reply #14607 on:** August 06, 2021, 06:26:48 PM »

Also, you might just keep him from getting sick!

FearlessF · « **Reply #14608 on:** August 06, 2021, 07:51:08 PM »

Three things to know about the long-term side effects of COVID vaccines

https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/12143-three-things-to-know-about-the-long-term-side-effects-of-covid-vaccines?fbclid=IwAR2Dxzq2cDbvlmjVVXRtYkyKUO1wl7UntGmASYXwFAakaS_O5fwf-Da7IOs

In his nearly 30 years studying vaccines, Paul Goepfert, M.D., director of the Alabama Vaccine Research Clinic at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, has never seen any vaccine as effective as the three COVID vaccines — from Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson — currently available in the United States.

“A 90 percent decrease in risk of infections, and 94 percent effectiveness against hospitalization for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines is fantastic,” he said.

But what makes vaccine experts such as Goepfert confident that COVID vaccines are safe in the long term? We have all seen billboards and TV infomercials from law firms seeking people harmed by diet drugs or acid-reflux medicines for class-action lawsuits. What makes Goepfert think that scientists would not discover previously unsuspected problems caused by COVID vaccines in the years ahead?

Hawkinole · « **Reply #14609 on:** August 07, 2021, 02:09:13 AM »

Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 06, 2021, 05:02:40 PM

I've mentioned my brother who thinks COVID is nothing much to worry about and won't get the vaccine because he'd rather trust his own immune system.

He's a pilot for United. United just announced that they're going to mandate that all US employees be vaccinated as soon as the vaccines receive full FDA approval, which is impending.

I'm seeing him tomorrow... Should I needle him over it? Or would that cause a scene as we're celebrating his wife's 50th birthday?

Oh, the media makes too much of 675,000 deaths. WTF????

If it were an in-law I would be cautious. If it were a brother, if his attitude could not be otherwise improved, a foot up the ass might feel good for you, bring closure for him, and rectify his resistance and hesitancy. If it didn't at least you would feel better for trying.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #14610 on:** August 07, 2021, 02:53:57 AM »

Quote from: Gigem on August 06, 2021, 01:37:31 PM

So last night I was talking to a cousin who lives up in North Carolina. Anyways she was telling us she got a job and this and that. After talking for awhile I asked her if she had her vaccination yet and she said no, she was scared to get the vaccination. I told her there was nothing to be scared about etc but she just was having none of it. She's not an extreme person, not overly political etc. She just doesn't trust the vaccine, yet. She's said she's waiting to see down the road at least several years before she gets it, if ever.

Never in the history of vaccinations has a detrimental side effect "appeared" several years after its release. The time for "wait and see" is about 2 months.
But I'm sure that doesn't matter.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #14611 on:** August 07, 2021, 07:35:41 AM »

New Data Suggest J. & J. Vaccine Works Against Delta - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
New Data Suggest J. & J. Vaccine Works Against Delta - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

FearlessF · « **Reply #14612 on:** August 07, 2021, 07:59:13 AM »

old data also suggests this

in a couple weeks there will be newer data that suggests the same thing

perhaps it's more than a suggestion?

Cincydawg · « **Reply #14613 on:** August 07, 2021, 09:25:37 AM »

UK and Spain continue to drift lower, France may have peaked, Brazil is drifting lower, India has drifted and is low now.

CatsbyAZ · « **Reply #14614 on:** August 07, 2021, 11:22:42 AM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 05, 2021, 06:59:12 PM

So, the elephant starting to prepare to enter the room…..

With Delta variant spreading rapidly in 40 of 50 states, and the CFB season 1 month away…

Will we have fans in the stadium and under what, if any limitations?

Since I already have or will have tickets for a number of college football games going into this season, it’s worth wondering if there’s enough time for a University to enforce vaccine proof in order to attend their campus sporting events. Minding their political geography, my guess to their likelihood is as follows, based on the following home games:

Sept 4: Eugene Oregon – 50/50 but closer to %100 if this were a November game

Sept 11: Ames Iowa – 15% though maybe up to 30% if in November?

Sept 25: Tempe Arizona – 5%

October 9: Auburn Alabama – 0%

November 13: Bloomington Indiana – 30%

GopherRock · « **Reply #14615 on:** August 07, 2021, 12:12:42 PM »

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