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Honestbuckeye

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14560 on: August 05, 2021, 06:59:12 PM »
So, the elephant starting to prepare to enter the room…..

With Delta variant spreading rapidly in 40 of 50 states, and the CFB season 1 month away…

Will we have fans in the stadium and under what, if any limitations?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14561 on: August 05, 2021, 07:02:31 PM »
Vaccinated folks should be free to go do whatever they like.  That was the purpose of the vaccine.

Unvaccinated folks should stay home.

Play ball!
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14562 on: August 05, 2021, 07:06:42 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 05, 2021, 06:59:12 PM
So, the elephant starting to prepare to enter the room…..

With Delta variant spreading rapidly in 40 of 50 states, and the CFB season 1 month away…

Will we have fans in the stadium and under what, if any limitations?
weve got MLB going strong right now drawing at least 15 to 25 thousand per game every night 

not sure its going to stop with college FB

as I pointed out in another post we are nearing 70% vaccinated of folks over 18 who have never had the virus

our low death and hospitalization rates support the fact that herd immunity has started
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14563 on: August 05, 2021, 07:17:53 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on August 05, 2021, 07:06:42 PM
weve got MLB going strong right now drawing at least 15 to 25 thousand per game every night

not sure its going to stop with college FB

as I pointed out in another post we are nearing 70% vaccinated of folks over 18 who have never had the virus

our low death and hospitalization rates support the fact that herd immunity has started

Hospitalizations are surging in Austin.  Mostly the unvaccinated. 

They're surging in Houston, too.  See chart below.

Folks really should get vaccinated so they can 1) stay out of the hospital and 2) go to football games.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14564 on: August 05, 2021, 07:19:43 PM »
Did you hear the SEC is going to make fans show their vaccination cards to enter the stadium?


Nah... I didn't either.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14565 on: August 05, 2021, 09:02:46 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 05, 2021, 07:19:43 PM
Did you hear the SEC is going to make fans show their vaccination cards to enter the stadium?


Nah... I didn't either.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14566 on: August 05, 2021, 09:40:43 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 05, 2021, 07:19:43 PM
Did you hear the SEC is going to make fans show their vaccination cards to enter the stadium?


Nah... I didn't either.
Why should they? People that want the vaccine can easily and readily get it. 

If you're deathly afraid of COVID- either get the vaccine or don't leave your house. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14567 on: August 05, 2021, 10:03:22 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 05, 2021, 10:36:37 AM
Huh. The three highest population states in the USA happen to have the three highest daily new case rates in the USA.

Great work, Columbo. :57:

You’re smarter than this, @betarhoalphadelta.

(re-)Read the idea that was presented – different geographies have reacted at different times of the year with surges. For two summers now the southern half of our nation’s population has notably suffered surges while the northern half’s surges took place early in the pandemic (spring 2020) and throughout their very fatal late fall/early winter surge. It’s worth asking why, especially with the cycle repeating. (The differing north/south surges even played out within the state of California.)

Simplifying the question into an explanation of only state populations misses how disproportionately the southern states are suffering their 2nd summer surge, for example throughout the smaller populations of Arkansas and especially with Mississippi and Louisiana having new case rates in the top 10 despite populations ranked at #34 and #25 respectively (see below for Aug 5 new case counts ranked by state).

You and I even touched on this idea of a “geographic cycle” somewhere back around thread page 400 or 500 hundred.

All in all, as @847badgerfan’s table showed, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island still lead the nation in Deaths/1M despite the South’s greater Summer surges.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14568 on: August 05, 2021, 10:56:20 PM »
This is a link to a very good covid cases vs deaths site

you can go to the upper left of the screen and select any state or national

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-map
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14569 on: August 06, 2021, 12:34:54 AM »
@CatsbyAZ I was just messing with you. It would have been a lot of work to perform substantive analysis so I went for sarcasm.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14570 on: August 06, 2021, 12:56:03 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on August 05, 2021, 07:06:42 PM
weve got MLB going strong right now drawing at least 15 to 25 thousand per game every night

not sure its going to stop with college FB

as I pointed out in another post we are nearing 70% vaccinated of folks over 18 who have never had the virus

our low death and hospitalization rates support the fact that herd immunity has started
My rural county is 51% vaccinated of those over 12.  24 new cases the past 7-days, 17,500 population. We are increasing fast. But, in December, 24 in a day was normal. Many of us have common sense. Many others enjoy propaganda. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14571 on: August 06, 2021, 01:28:46 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 05, 2021, 12:33:54 PM
I think he's asking, is there a reason to think the US will follow the UK curve, rather than us just hoping it will happen?  Here's the current graph of the two countries overlaid.  We've been somewhat aligned since last October, until this most recent wave, when they started before us.


I like that chart.  I hope that our curve follows the UK's.
School year's about to start, and where I teach is anti-mask, anti-vax, and anti-distant learning.
As I've said earlier, I've got my shots, I've got a good immune system, and I've got O+ blood, which seems to be the best to have with this virus.
But not so with any of that except the shots where my wife is concerned.  I don't want to have a case of it I don't even know I have and give it to her.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14572 on: August 06, 2021, 01:35:22 AM »
Regarding the idea that we have constitutional rights not to be vaccinated. . .


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The Supreme Court addressed the question of whether mandatory vaccinations violated the Constitution back in 1905 and the most shocking thing about that opinion is how little things have changed.

In Jacobson v. Massachusetts, the Court decided that mandatory vaccinations were perfectly constitutional and an important tool of public health. Henning Jacobson, an early anti-vaxxer, refused to be vaccinated for smallpox. Just like anti-vaxxers do today about the COVID vaccine, he argued that the smallpox vaccine didn’t work.

As a factual matter, this claim has not aged well—but it was considered ridiculous even at the time. While Jacobson offered evidence of “the general theory of those of the medical profession who attach little or no value to vaccination as a means of preventing the spread of smallpox . . . this court knows, that an opposite theory accords with the common belief and is maintained by high medical authority.”
It's from this article, which I do not want to post in its entirety as there's an allusion to political ideology relating to anti-vaxxism in one paragraph.


Anti-Vaxx Herp Derp
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14573 on: August 06, 2021, 06:34:01 AM »
Moderna, which is the vaxx I happened to get, now projecting a needed booster shot after 6 months. They are seeing a meaningful decline in efficacy like Phizer.

I heard some discussion that we might be able to mix and match ( so get the Phizer booster if you had the Moderna vaccine, and vice versa)

That would be good.  
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