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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14210 on: July 08, 2021, 07:50:50 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/08/health/pfizer-waning-immunity-bn/index.html
so for folks not yet vaccinated will they combine the booster with the original vaccine when it comes on the market

just a thought
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14211 on: July 08, 2021, 08:06:21 PM »
I'm not sure why anyone should wear a mask now, anyway.  Those who want the vaccine, have it.  Those that don't have the vaccine, don't want it.

Why should vaccinated people go out of their way to wear masks and protect people that don't want to be protected?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14212 on: July 08, 2021, 08:50:52 PM »
That's the spirit.
Beyond snarky condescension, do you have an argument?

People who are vaccinated don't need to wear masks to protect themselves. Anyone who wants protection from the virus has pretty ready access to the vaccine by now.

So is there any justification you can give, ethically, why vaccinated adults should be wearing masks? 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14213 on: July 08, 2021, 09:17:42 PM »
Coastal elite my ass.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14214 on: July 08, 2021, 09:21:26 PM »
Having been raised in Galveston I am the true COASTAL ELITE
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14215 on: July 08, 2021, 10:07:28 PM »
masks probably killed as many people as they saved
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14216 on: July 08, 2021, 10:58:34 PM »
Beyond snarky condescension, do you have an argument?

People who are vaccinated don't need to wear masks to protect themselves. Anyone who wants protection from the virus has pretty ready access to the vaccine by now.

So is there any justification you can give, ethically, why vaccinated adults should be wearing masks?

Some people want the public to wear masks indefinitely because... reasons?

There's no science behind it.

The vaccine replaces the mask, and it's far more effective at its job.  That's the entire point.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14217 on: July 09, 2021, 08:20:38 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/08/health/pfizer-waning-immunity-bn/index.html
Money grab.


But in an unusual move, two top federal agencies said Americans don't need boosters yet and said it was not up to companies alone to decide when they might be needed.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14218 on: July 09, 2021, 08:28:50 AM »
I saw two people yesterday outside with masks on, first time in a while.  One was on a nike, outside, in a very uncrowded area.  And no, I don't see any need for masks outside period, maybe in a crowded room, maybe.  It's common practice in Asia apparently.

ATL has a low rate of new cases, to the extent that is relevant, fortunately.

Delta is taking hold globally pretty fast I think.  Israel is a place to watch.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14219 on: July 09, 2021, 08:42:09 AM »
Money grab.


But in an unusual move, two top federal agencies said Americans don't need boosters yet and said it was not up to companies alone to decide when they might be needed.
it's obviously up to top federal agencies
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14220 on: July 09, 2021, 09:10:59 AM »
Many of us have speculated for a while, that boosters would become necessary.  I don't think this should be surprising or unsettling news. 

If they can demonstrate improved efficacy against mutating strains, then I don't consider it a money grab either.

But I do see it as evidence that long-term, we're just going to have to get used to this virus living among us.  Eventually its novelty will wear off and it will affect humans less dramatically with each passing year.

Just by sheer numbers, there's no way to control a virus that spreads this easily.

Globally, there are billions of people that will never have the means, capability, or access, to get any vaccination at all.  Billions.

The virus will continue to spread and mutate with that population, and will subsequently continue to get reintroduced into the vaccinated population. Because there's absolutely no way to ensure that those populations remain isolated from one another, in any long-term scenario. 




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14221 on: July 09, 2021, 09:19:17 AM »
We "tolerate" influenza now as a regular thing.  The vaccines are not nearly as effective as the COVID vaccine is today, too many strains.

But "we" have some resistance to the flu, usually, without a vaccine.  And will have with COVID 19/20/21 probably.

I agree.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14222 on: July 09, 2021, 09:57:02 AM »
I read that all the Covid virus in the entire world could be contained in a shot glass. Nothing you can do about that, unless you just stop breathing.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14223 on: July 09, 2021, 10:06:40 AM »
There is some evidence to suggest common colds caused by coronaviruses started as pandemics too. 

 

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