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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14196 on: July 08, 2021, 03:25:18 PM »
Of folks who get tested, what percent have resistance due to vaccine or having had it?

I don't think we know.

Of symptomatic folks who get tested, nearly all would be unvaccinated.

I think the point is that the "new case rate" is not as clear an indicator as it was a year ago.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14197 on: July 08, 2021, 03:34:55 PM »
I just drove across the country and back again, and masks are rare at every stop.  Eastbound & down on I-40/20 and then back out west on I-10.  Drove Houston to Phoenix yesterday.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14198 on: July 08, 2021, 05:12:33 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 08, 2021, 03:34:55 PM
I just drove across the country and back again, and masks are rare at every stop.  Eastbound & down on I-40/20 and then back out west on I-10.  Drove Houston to Phoenix yesterday.
Masks are now rare here in SoCal. Heading to Seattle tomorrow and I'm expecting since they lifted their COVID restrictions a week ago, masks will be sparse and diminishing even over the weekend we're visiting. 

People are tired of masks. People who diligently wore them but are now vaccinated want to go back to normal, and people who didn't want to wear them have stopped, whether they're vaccinated or not. 

Most of the portion of the country you drove through never wanted to wear them in the first place, but even us coastal elites have stopped doing so now that vaccination is widespread. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14199 on: July 08, 2021, 05:15:27 PM »
Coastal elite my ass.

I AM COASTAL ELITE.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14200 on: July 08, 2021, 05:35:31 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on July 08, 2021, 05:12:33 PM
Masks are now rare here in SoCal. Heading to Seattle tomorrow and I'm expecting since they lifted their COVID restrictions a week ago, masks will be sparse and diminishing even over the weekend we're visiting.

People are tired of masks. People who diligently wore them but are now vaccinated want to go back to normal, and people who didn't want to wear them have stopped, whether they're vaccinated or not.

Most of the portion of the country you drove through never wanted to wear them in the first place, but even us coastal elites have stopped doing so now that vaccination is widespread.

I'm not sure why anyone should wear a mask now, anyway.  Those who want the vaccine, have it.  Those that don't have the vaccine, don't want it.

Why should vaccinated people go out of their way to wear masks and protect people that don't want to be protected?

That bit is over.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14201 on: July 08, 2021, 05:40:32 PM »
Yeah, we're done too. I'm not convinced they work anyway. Lots of people too old for pimples had pimples. And breathing problems.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14202 on: July 08, 2021, 05:46:05 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 08, 2021, 05:35:31 PM
I'm not sure why anyone should wear a mask now, anyway.  Those who want the vaccine, have it.  Those that don't have the vaccine, don't want it.

Why should vaccinated people go out of their way to wear masks and protect people that don't want to be protected?

That bit is over.
Yeah, I'm with you. I was all in when it came down to protecting the vulnerable. I'm less interested in protecting the stubborn and obstinate--who don't believe COVID is something they need to be protected from anyway. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14203 on: July 08, 2021, 05:57:43 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 08, 2021, 05:40:32 PM
Yeah, we're done too. I'm not convinced they work anyway. Lots of people too old for pimples had pimples. And breathing problems.
Well the cloth masks and surgical masks, all they ever could do, was act as spit catchers.  There's some value to that, I think.  It doesn't protect the wearer, but it protects those around the wearer from getting spit, coughed, or sneezed on from a distance, by an infected person.  But that's it.

Properly fitted N95 masks protect both the wearer and the general public.  But most people don't have them, never had them, and those that did, often didn't have them properly fitted, so again-- spit-catcher and nothing more.

Hopefully the scientific community has taken this valuable opportunity to conduct a lot of research on the subject, and we'll do better next time.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14204 on: July 08, 2021, 06:08:40 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 08, 2021, 05:57:43 PM

Hopefully the scientific community has taken this valuable opportunity to conduct a lot of research on the subject, and we'll do better next time.
I'm sure they have...

...and I'm sure we won't.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14205 on: July 08, 2021, 06:10:57 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on July 08, 2021, 06:08:40 PM
I'm sure they have...

...and I'm sure we won't.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14206 on: July 08, 2021, 06:31:07 PM »
Pfizer reporting reduced immunity for those vaccinated.  Seeking FDA approval for booster.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14207 on: July 08, 2021, 06:38:39 PM »
Japan declares a state of emergency heading into the Olympics.

I am curious as to how we deal with COVID this fall and winter. The numbers will go back up, if we are testing for it. Further, the immunity from vaccines in the spring will likely be much less effective, though it should (hopefully) nullify a lot of the bad outcomes. But in a straight numbers scenario, those will go up and I'm not sure how people will respond to that.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14208 on: July 08, 2021, 06:52:02 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on July 08, 2021, 06:31:07 PM
Pfizer reporting reduced immunity for those vaccinated.  Seeking FDA approval for booster. 
could you post the source 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14209 on: July 08, 2021, 06:57:36 PM »
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