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847badgerfan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14000 on: June 02, 2021, 07:39:13 AM »
Florida unemployment rate over time: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FLUR

California unemployment rate over time: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CAUR

Look pretty f'ing similar to me. Florida's unemployment was slightly lower to start with [for many reasons] and recovered slightly faster, but both faced MASSIVE spikes when COVID hit. California had 12% fewer cases/1M and 7% fewer deaths/1M, but both are kinda in the middle of the national averages overall.


Seems like slight differences both ways.

I'm not attacking Florida, so not asking you to defend it. I don't think their response was bad. I also don't think it was a master stroke of governance. It was somewhere in the middle.

I know you aren't attacking FL. 

I guess we'll find out over time how each state really did, but I know FL's unemployment numbers are about to drop dramatically with the cruise industry returning and the theme parks heating up, among other things. I expect to see around 3% at the end of this year.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14001 on: June 02, 2021, 07:54:26 AM »
Texas and other states are also ending their participation in the additional Federal unemployment benefits, which should improve unemployment numbers as well.

I don't believe there's a huge percentage of the population that's not going back to work as a result of these extra benefits, but anecdotally, I do know of at least two restaurant servers who have remained on unemployment assistance despite having opportunities to work, simply because the state plus Federal unemployment benefits allowed them to be comfortable enough to not work.




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14002 on: June 02, 2021, 09:10:23 AM »
my county in Iowa reported zero new cases yesterday, the first time since February

They've decided to not report the statistics any longer

it's over
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14003 on: June 02, 2021, 09:26:17 AM »
Mask mandates are gone today in Minneapolis and St Paul, as both have above 70% of residents having at least one dose.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14005 on: June 03, 2021, 01:09:52 AM »
We are still having 550 people die of COVID-19 per day nationally, which seems like a really high # to me.

That said, here in NE Iowa, the rural county I live in with a population just > 17,000 currently has no hospitalizations, a 14-day positivity rate of 1.8%, and no new cases today. The past week or so just 0-2 new cases per day. The rural county north of us had a new death reported, so it is not entirely over.

Our fully vaccinated rate in our rural county just went up to 50.4%. Dubuque County to our east has a 62.2% vaccination rate, and the county to our north has the lowest rate in our area of 47.7%

When experts last summer thought we could achieve herd immunity with 70% vaccinated, I think they were counting on vaccinations that were just 55-70% effective. No one thought then the vaccines would be > 90% effective, or as safe as they have turned out to be.

I bought carry-out tonight at the Chinese restaurant across the street from my office. I was surprised to walk in and for the first time since March 2020 there were diners inside; the family operating the restaurant was very cautious throughout the pandemic. When things closed down in March 2020 my neighbors went to visit extended family in Calif. for a few weeks, when they reopened to carryout in April there was a line around the block for carryout.  My neighbors have always had a large carryout business, despite a quality dining area.  I was so buoyed to see the support they had here, but then they have a good product.

Things are starting to brighten up, and are looking up here.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14006 on: June 03, 2021, 09:06:06 AM »
Yeah, I almost never see a mask outside now.  Traffic is back with a vengeance.  Restaurants are operating much as before with some effort to space tables.  Many enlarged outside dining so their number of tables remained about the same even so.  We like dining outside anyway.

Things here are near normal.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14007 on: June 03, 2021, 09:55:50 AM »
Scientists speaks, usually, in a very nuanced form with a lot of hemming and hawwing.




It’s always struck me as one of the more paradoxical social natures that the scientist, who’s tasked with carefully defining what’s provable and unprovable, speaks so cautiously to the point of unsureness, while on the other hand the people who speak with and rally the most confidence are those with nothing to stand on. The scientist almost always qualifies their talking points with “correct me if I’m wrong…” or “don’t quote me but…” Whereas those who let extremist politics or pseudo-cultish religion do their thinking for them are the ones most vocally certain of their rightness.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14008 on: June 03, 2021, 10:18:49 AM »
It's part of the training in writing articles, I think.  Certainty is to be avoided, or at least couched and qualified.

This is suggestive that...

It appears that ...

The data are consistent with ...

This shows the possibility that ...


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14009 on: June 03, 2021, 10:34:08 AM »
because it's certainly true

very few things are certain in this world

the intelligent folks realize this
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14010 on: June 03, 2021, 11:31:14 AM »

It’s always struck me as one of the more paradoxical social natures that the scientist, who’s tasked with carefully defining what’s provable and unprovable, speaks so cautiously to the point of unsureness, while on the other hand the people who speak with and rally the most confidence are those with nothing to stand on. The scientist almost always qualifies their talking points with “correct me if I’m wrong…” or “don’t quote me but…” Whereas those who let extremist politics or pseudo-cultish religion do their thinking for them are the ones most vocally certain of their rightness.
Typical Dunning-Kruger Effect. 

It's the typical thing when some random consumer asks a question "well why doesn't this giant company just do X, which would TOTALLY be easy and make them tons of money?!"

Well, it's usually not because that giant company is dumb and nobody thought of it. It's probably because there are very good reasons that it's either not easy, or wouldn't make them money, or both. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14012 on: June 03, 2021, 01:40:02 PM »
I of course worked 32 years for a large company, at times on "new product development", getting into business areas we didn't currently occupy.  Alcohol was off the table, along with tobacco products.  We missed terribly the bottled water "fad".  We had one effort on socks, which now is kind of a fad, and another on bras, really, and athletic sportware, stuff that really worked not just fashion stuff.  We supposedly had tech on moving and trapping sweat, so it came from that.

I spent a few months on flea control, a huge need back in that era, but still a small market for that company.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14013 on: June 03, 2021, 03:44:18 PM »
May be an image of 1 person and text that says 'GONNA JUMP ON THIS EARLY FAUCI DID NOT KILL HIMSELF'
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