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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12950 on: March 16, 2021, 10:18:45 AM »
You guys REALLY need to get off your "people I know don't think that" horses.  I mean seriously.  Open your eyes.  The world is a little bigger than the 200 people you interact with every day. You know this, but there you are, stuck on your horse.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12951 on: March 16, 2021, 10:25:21 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 16, 2021, 10:15:58 AM
There are more anti vaxxers in Europe than the US.
Where evidently there have been more than a few cases reported of patients having blood clots after getting vaccinated
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12952 on: March 16, 2021, 10:27:53 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 16, 2021, 10:16:14 AM
FFS.......YOUR "WIDESPREAD" POLLING ISN'T MORE VALID THAN ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE.
Agreed.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12953 on: March 16, 2021, 10:49:24 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 16, 2021, 10:18:45 AM
You guys REALLY need to get off your "people I know don't think that" horses.  I mean seriously.  Open your eyes.  The world is a little bigger than the 200 people you interact with every day. You know this, but there you are, stuck on your horse.
By “ open your eyes” do you really mean get in line?  Lol.  Like- when we are being told that masks aren’t important, and then they are? Or when we are told “6 ft” but now we learn it is 3ft?  Like when we are told science says going to church and to school is spreading the virus, but mass arm in arm protests aren’t? Or when we are told “ there is no way an effective vaccine could be developed and leveraged any sooner than mid year 2021, but now we-are being told the opposite? Or one of my all time favorites- we are told that a poll says candidate #1 is up by 10 points in State A, but the results are that candidate B wins?
Thankfully- we are not all lemmings who swallow the absolute garbage the MSM is spewing.

you on the other hand......
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12954 on: March 16, 2021, 11:09:38 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 16, 2021, 10:18:45 AM
You guys REALLY need to get off your "people I know don't think that" horses.  I mean seriously.  Open your eyes.  The world is a little bigger than the 200 people you interact with every day. You know this, but there you are, stuck on your horse.
so, you think all "polls" are fair and balanced?

if someone polled 1000 college football fans or 1000 random folks and the poll showed that Roger Craig was the most popular college football player of all-time, would you be skeptical?

or would you saddle up?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12955 on: March 16, 2021, 11:13:23 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 16, 2021, 10:25:21 AM
Where evidently there have been more than a few cases reported of patients having blood clots after getting vaccinated
Apparently, the rate is lower than in the rep pop, but that isn't certain yet.  You  have to compare similar groups.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12956 on: March 16, 2021, 11:19:47 AM »

“Europe is the world’s epicenter of vaccine skepticism,” Deutsch and Wheaton of Politico Europe write. That skepticism predated Covid, and now its consequences are becoming clear.


In a survey published in the journal Nature Medicine, residents of 19 countries were asked if they would take a Covid vaccine that had been “proven safe and effective.” In China, 89 percent of people said yes. In the U.S., 75 percent did. The shares were lower across most of Europe: 68 percent in Germany, 65 percent in Sweden, 59 percent in France and 56 percent in Poland.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12957 on: March 16, 2021, 11:27:42 AM »
it used to be OK to joke about the Polish people
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12958 on: March 16, 2021, 11:53:47 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 16, 2021, 11:09:38 AM
so, you think all "polls" are fair and balanced?

if someone polled 1000 college football fans or 1000 random folks and the poll showed that Roger Craig was the most popular college football player of all-time, would you be skeptical?

or would you saddle up?
How do you take my "widespread polls are more valid than your anecdotal evidence" to "all polls are fair and balanced"??  This is why a conversation is impossible with some people.
The leaps you make.  Go try out for the Olympics.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12959 on: March 16, 2021, 11:55:05 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 16, 2021, 10:27:53 AM
Agreed.
I know you're far too old and set in your ways to change or acknowledge being wrong, but you're still wrong.  No one's anecdotal data is more valid than widespread polling - not yours and not mine. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12960 on: March 16, 2021, 11:56:12 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 16, 2021, 11:19:47 AM
“Europe is the world’s epicenter of vaccine skepticism,” Deutsch and Wheaton of Politico Europe write. That skepticism predated Covid, and now its consequences are becoming clear.


In a survey published in the journal Nature Medicine, residents of 19 countries were asked if they would take a Covid vaccine that had been “proven safe and effective.” In China, 89 percent of people said yes. In the U.S., 75 percent did. The shares were lower across most of Europe: 68 percent in Germany, 65 percent in Sweden, 59 percent in France and 56 percent in Poland.




This is why China is winning.  They're not dumb.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12961 on: March 16, 2021, 11:58:38 AM »
they're not dumb.  They don't want to disappear, so they take their government's advice
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12962 on: March 16, 2021, 11:59:47 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 16, 2021, 11:53:47 AM
How do you take my "widespread polls are more valid than your anecdotal evidence" to "all polls are fair and balanced"??  This is why a conversation is impossible with some people.
The leaps you make.  Go try out for the Olympics.
it's not much of a leap to be skeptical of a poll
you don't need to be able to jump like Bruce Jenner
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12963 on: March 16, 2021, 12:00:00 PM »
It's not about rights or gov't or any of that crap.  It's about the phrase "proven safe and effective."  With that phrasing, all of those numbers should be 100%. 
China is just the least dumb, so they win.
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