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bayareabadger

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12936 on: March 16, 2021, 08:33:32 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 15, 2021, 07:57:24 PM
this was a story recently.................

https://www.sacbee.com/news/article249943718.html


A Florida correctional officer polled his colleagues earlier this year in a private Facebook group: “Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine if offered?”

The answer from more than half: “Hell no.” Only 40 of the 475 respondents said yes.

In Massachusetts, more than half the people employed by the Department of Correction declined to be immunized. A statewide survey in California showed that half of all correction employees will wait to be vaccinated. In Rhode Island, prison staff have refused the vaccine at higher rates than the incarcerated, according to medical director Dr. Justin Berk. And in Iowa, early polling among employees showed a little more than half the staff said they’d get vaccinated.

It does lead to a sort of fascinating question of if prisoners should be high or low on the vaccine list. The idea they were high cause outrage in enough corners that they were dropped, but it leads to a discussion. They are nominally under the care of the people. They're in a situation where they can't prevent spread even if they wanted to. The might be an incubation spot for new strains. But on the other hand, it feels weird that having done a crime gets you something that lots of people want. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12937 on: March 16, 2021, 08:46:21 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12938 on: March 16, 2021, 08:49:02 AM »
unless they just targeted the far right
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12939 on: March 16, 2021, 08:53:14 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on March 16, 2021, 08:33:32 AM
It does lead to a sort of fascinating question of if prisoners should be high or low on the vaccine list. The idea they were high cause outrage in enough corners that they were dropped, but it leads to a discussion. They are nominally under the care of the people. They're in a situation where they can't prevent spread even if they wanted to. The might be an incubation spot for new strains. But on the other hand, it feels weird that having done a crime gets you something that lots of people want.
if they polled correctional officers, I'd guess they also polled prisoners.
I'd guess most prisoners would complain if they couldn't get the vaccine, or not right away, but when offered they would be a high percentage to refuse the vaccine

the strange one for me was health care workers
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12940 on: March 16, 2021, 09:02:54 AM »
I guess we'll find out when the states release their final vaccination percentages later this year.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12941 on: March 16, 2021, 09:32:17 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 16, 2021, 08:46:21 AM
I don't believe that poll for a minute.
Because....................you disagree with it?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12942 on: March 16, 2021, 09:49:37 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 16, 2021, 09:32:17 AM
Because....................you disagree with it?

I do disagree with it.

Because it doesn't represent the very many people I know - most of which lean right.

I have hundreds of friends, employees, peers, board colleagues, etc. and only one person has said no. Maybe NPR could poll those people.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12943 on: March 16, 2021, 10:04:51 AM »
Europe is doing worse than the US on vaccine rates and anti ax sentiment is higher in Europe than here.  Their case rates are increasing in several countries.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12944 on: March 16, 2021, 10:05:58 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 16, 2021, 10:04:51 AM
Europe is doing worse than the US on vaccine rates and anti ax sentiment is higher in Europe than here.  Their case rates are increasing in several countries.


I do have friends in Amsterdam who will not get it. At least not yet.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12945 on: March 16, 2021, 10:09:55 AM »
I am not sure about that poll but it doesn’t match what I am seeing at all.

Either way, the way to go about fixing that is to answer questions for those who have them about the vaccine and win them over with the answers to those questions. But instead what I see is anyone who questions anything about vaccines is now censored out of social media or made fun of. That’s a vicious circle because that’s not going to create trust.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12946 on: March 16, 2021, 10:13:21 AM »
why would a majority of republicans not want to take the vaccine

whats the benefit
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12947 on: March 16, 2021, 10:15:58 AM »
There are more anti vaxxers in Europe than the US.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12948 on: March 16, 2021, 10:16:14 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 16, 2021, 09:49:37 AM
I do disagree with it.

Because it doesn't represent the very many people I know - most of which lean right.

I have hundreds of friends, employees, peers, board colleagues, etc. and only one person has said no. Maybe NPR could poll those people.
FFS.......YOUR ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE ISN'T MORE VALID THAN WIDESPREAD POLLING.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12949 on: March 16, 2021, 10:17:17 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on March 16, 2021, 10:09:55 AM
I am not sure about that poll but it doesn’t match what I am seeing at all.

FFS.........YOUR ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE ISN'T MORE VALID THAN WIDESPREAD POLLING.
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