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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11578 on: December 21, 2020, 09:03:42 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11579 on: December 22, 2020, 12:27:23 AM »
lol, I'm away from my computer for an hour and it's "crickets"?  You're a mental child.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11580 on: December 22, 2020, 12:59:46 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 22, 2020, 12:27:23 AM
lol, I'm away from my computer for an hour and it's "crickets"?  You're a mental child.
and yet you still wont answer my question



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11581 on: December 22, 2020, 01:21:33 AM »
because I was commenting on the childishness of your mentality.


No, I don't live my life based on your timeline.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11582 on: December 22, 2020, 01:56:03 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 22, 2020, 01:21:33 AM
because I was commenting on the childishness of your mentality.


No, I don't live my life based on your timeline. 
For somebody thats 12 years old and still lives with his mom, youre not acting very nice.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11583 on: December 22, 2020, 07:02:40 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 21, 2020, 08:29:49 PM
Let me underline the part that matters.  And I'll nix the part that has nothing to do with the point being made.  Stop mimicking the talking heads on the extremist "news entertainment" networks, please.
What is your point?

That the travel should have been shut off in October? 

We had no idea what was here at that time, because China covered it up, as did the WHO on their behalf.

China closed internal flights, yet left international travel open.

As soon as we knew what we had, travel was shut down.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11584 on: December 22, 2020, 07:03:21 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 21, 2020, 04:34:31 PM
Fauci Says We Must "Keep an Eye On" the Mutation

During an interview with CNN, he explained that the US must "without a doubt keep an eye on it," but added that, "we don't want to overreact." He also revealed that if the matter is brought up during Monday's White House coronavirus task force meeting, he would advise against suspending flights from the UK.

"Follow it carefully, but don't overreact to it," Fauci said about the new strain of the virus. While he is confident officials in the UK are doing the right thing by monitoring this new strain, he isn't criticizing countries who have tightened up restrictions; he just doesn't believe it is necessary.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield agrees. Monday morning, Brett Giroir, the White House's coronavirus testing czar, told CNN's John Berman on New Day that travel restrictions were not currently on the table. "I think we're waiting for CDC kind of recommendations. Last night, talking to Dr. (Robert) Redfield, there was not a recommendation for that. Again, every hour we get more information. I think, as we have done and we need to do, we need to listen to the best experts," he said. "I think everything is possible. We just need to put everything on the table, have an open scientific discussion and make a best recommendation," he said when asked if a travel ban was possible.


Did you even bother to read this 'Fro?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11585 on: December 22, 2020, 08:59:50 AM »
So no one's covering anything up this time.  We know what we have.  And you cite Fauci when you're not insulting/ignoring him.  
I give up.
I used to respect you.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11586 on: December 22, 2020, 09:05:44 AM »
I've never disparaged or disrespected Dr. Fauci. 

I've called him out when he was wrong, like everyone else with a mind of their own, and like anyone else who has been wrong.

The only coverup in this whole thing was China and the WHO covering for them - even calling our travel shutdown racist.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11587 on: December 22, 2020, 10:06:11 AM »
"Follow it carefully, but don't overreact to it," Fauci said about the new strain of the virus. While he is confident officials in the UK are doing the right thing by monitoring this new strain, he isn't criticizing countries who have tightened up restrictions; he just doesn't believe it is necessary.

this is the same message we got from Fauci and many others back in February

apparently we did the right thing then, because after some experience and trial & error, we are told to do the same thing now.

don't overreact, just wear a mask
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11588 on: December 22, 2020, 10:26:14 AM »
From what Ive read this new mutation is easier to catch but not worse health wise

The key question to me is are the current vaccines affective against it

if not then there goes the ball game

if yes then Im not very concerned
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11589 on: December 22, 2020, 10:27:50 AM »
another thought is maybe we have this mutation right now and thats why the huge spike in positives
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11590 on: December 22, 2020, 10:27:55 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on December 22, 2020, 10:26:14 AM
From what Ive read this new mutation is easier to catch but not worse health wise

The key question to me is are the current vaccines affective against it

if not then there goes the ball game

if yes then Im not very concerned
It is being tested in labs, but so far the answer is yes.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11591 on: December 22, 2020, 11:10:41 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 22, 2020, 01:21:33 AM
because I was commenting on the childishness of your mentality.

Quote from: longhorn320 on December 22, 2020, 01:56:03 AM
For somebody thats 12 years old and still lives with his mom, youre not acting very nice.

This plays into the COVID discussion - US DEATHS IN 2020 TOP 3 MILLION, by far most ever counted: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/us-deaths-2020-top-million-counted-74855303

This is statistically severe: "Final mortality data for this year will not be available for months. But preliminary numbers suggest that the United States is on track to see more than 3.2 million deaths this year, or at least 400,000 more than in 2019."

Only impoverished nations or nations under crisis experience worsening mortality rates: "But life expectancy for 2020 could end up dropping as much as three full years, said Robert Anderson of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

And what might be the worst news of all: "Drug overdose deaths, meanwhile, got much worse. Before the coronavirus even arrived, the U.S. was in the midst of the deadliest drug overdose epidemic in its history. Last week the CDC reported more than 81,000 drug overdose deaths in the 12 months ending in May, making it the highest number ever recorded in a one-year period. People are more likely to be taking drugs alone — without the benefit of a friend or family member who can call 911 or administer overdose-reversing medication. But perhaps a bigger factor are the drugs themselves: COVID-19 caused supply problems for dealers, so they are increasingly mixing cheap and deadly fentanyl into heroin, cocaine and methamphetamine, experts said. “I don't suspect there are a bunch of new people who suddenly started using drugs because of COVID. If anything, I think the supply of people who are already using drugs is more contaminated,” said Shannon Monnat, a Syracuse University researcher who studies drug overdose trends."

For as much as we bitch about politics and somehow expect Washington DC to have all the answers, unfortunately, a few of these problems that won't fix themselves might already be past the point of political solution. Rising global costs, household debt, and prescription/narcotic dependency (all factoring into the out of control homelessness out West) is turning America into a poorer, sicker, and more addicted nation with no end in site.
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