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I actually do. It's not going to be any more effective in changing minds, but it makes things a lot more yell-y. Which is both unpleasant and not changing minds.

What may change minds around here is data, facts, logic, not hyperbole and dismissiveness.  Maybe it makes a poster feel better to think he has just blown someone out of the water with a snide comment, maybe so, have at it.  It also generates division on a topic where everyone should be united at least in aim, to strive for accuracy and truth to the extent possible.

Yeah, the wife's been wanting to go to Brazil and I checked fares a month or so back.  Delta One was $2500, it's usually triple that.  So, I said "Call your friend and let's go."

And then the Brazilian numbers showed a brazilian people had the virus and I nixed it.

the most reasonable conclusion from the available scientific evidence is that community mask mandates have—at most—a small effect on the course of the pandemic, writes Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo of UCLA

This might be true, I don't know of course, but a small benefit seems worth it to me for a minor inconvenience.  And even a small cut in R naught can be significant over time of course.

I agree with both statements

I agree, the election has pushed some into either extreme, shut everything down now or open everything up now and let it run.

I don't think anyone here is in either camp, really.  Hopefully.

Tough to say. Some offer ideas about what we should be doing NOW. Some don't or won't.

The ideas I've seen offered are not absolute nor severe, they are middle of the road somewhere.

And yes, some who criticize never offer an alternative, so be it.  

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/29/coronavirus-moderna-says-it-is-actively-preparing-for-launch-of-vaccine.html

Vaccine news continues to appear promising.

I'm making light of the dramatics of badge's post.  Hyperbole is as good as any other strategy when no one's mind can be changed through rational discussion.  Do you disagree?

That was Cincy, not Badge. 

And quite frankly one of the potential outcomes of this thing is ending the economy as we know it. For the past 7 months, people with the opportunity have been WFH. People have been changing their behaviors in many ways, such as cooking their own meals instead of going out for meals. People have been looking for alternative entertainment options--and artists like musicians have been experimenting with different streaming-style "concerts". 

How much of this will persist? Per commercial real estate, how many industries will reduce their office space footprints as they've realized people can WFH effectively? How many aggregate restaurants can still support themselves if people go from an average of X number of meals per week cooked at home to 3X meals, and thus are not going out? What if people start to realize that things like sports or concerts are actually a better experience watching from home than paying $100+ for nosebleed seats where you practically need binoculars to know what's going on on the field/stage? 

This thing can very well end/remake the economy as we know it, without resorting to living in caves and using the barter system. 

But instead, you want to claim you have the moral high ground at all times, and act like the rest of us are indifferent to the health and suffering of our countrymen.