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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6412 on: July 07, 2020, 04:21:15 PM »
I think the easiest way to form an opinion is pretty simple, if a Republican (or Democrat) proposes it, it's really bad, stupid, inane, and evil, but if a Democrat (or Republican) proposes it, it's a great idea.  You run into problems when a Republican governor proposes it and then a Democratic government from a neighboring state proposes the same thing.

Then you blame it on the media, or somebody else.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6414 on: July 07, 2020, 05:19:53 PM »
I'm not sure of the current laws in Texas but I remember at one time the state required a balanced budget.  In other words, the state could not go into the red.  The other thing along with that is the legislature only meets for 90 days every other year.  Everything that needs to get done, legislative wise, has to be done in those 90 days.  Budgets, laws, the whole 9.  It also means that it's less time for bull shit.  If it doesn't get done in those 90 days, it either has to wait two more years or the governor has to call a special session, which does happen occasionally.  Also, I think the state picked up some tobacco settlement funds decades ago and has a "rainy day" fund set aside that should be in the billions by now.  


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6415 on: July 07, 2020, 05:20:11 PM »
It should be noted that only 15% of the occupied ICU beds in Texas are occupied by virus patients

85% of the occupied ICU beds in Texas are non virus related

thats kinda eye opening aint it
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6416 on: July 07, 2020, 05:21:43 PM »
I'm not sure of the current laws in Texas but I remember at one time the state required a balanced budget.  In other words, the state could not go into the red.  The other thing along with that is the legislature only meets for 90 days every other year.  Everything that needs to get done, legislative wise, has to be done in those 90 days.  Budgets, laws, the whole 9.  It also means that it's less time for bull shit.  If it doesn't get done in those 90 days, it either has to wait two more years or the governor has to call a special session, which does happen occasionally.  Also, I think the state picked up some tobacco settlement funds decades ago and has a "rainy day" fund set aside that should be in the billions by now. 


you are correct

Texas has a balance budget which is required
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6417 on: July 07, 2020, 05:26:14 PM »
Forty nine states have a balanced budget requirement.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6418 on: July 07, 2020, 05:26:36 PM »
https://medium.com/@vernunftundrichtigkeit/coronavirus-why-everyone-was-wrong-fce6db5ba809

Not sure about some of this ....
That targets my main concern right now, which is that infections will increase in the winter. Coupled with cold and flu season, I'm worried about what that will look like.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6419 on: July 07, 2020, 05:49:53 PM »
https://medium.com/@vernunftundrichtigkeit/coronavirus-why-everyone-was-wrong-fce6db5ba809

Not sure about some of this ....
Agree... I'm not sure about a LOT of that. 

And given that it was written in Switzerland which had an aggressive response and by the time of original publication (Jun 10) had appeared to nearly eradicate the virus, I understand why he might have thought it was like any other cold/flu that would go away in the summer...

...but what have we here? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/switzerland/

Strange that as you get to late June and then July, suddenly you start seeing positive cases trending back up in Switzerland. Almost like reopening their economy starting in May and reopening to tourists starting in mid June started leading to new upticks in infections. 

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6420 on: July 07, 2020, 06:09:51 PM »
Forty nine states have a balanced budget requirement.
Illinois is one of them. They do it with smoke and mirrors here.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6421 on: July 07, 2020, 07:36:05 PM »
https://medium.com/@vernunftundrichtigkeit/coronavirus-why-everyone-was-wrong-fce6db5ba809

Not sure about some of this ....
medium.com is a blog.

It is literally made by the makers of twitter for people that wanted to type more characters.

It should NEVER be cited here.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6422 on: July 07, 2020, 07:38:47 PM »
It should be noted that only 15% of the occupied ICU beds in Texas are occupied by virus patients

85% of the occupied ICU beds in Texas are non virus related

thats kinda eye opening aint it
It's shocking that 15% of beds in a huge state like Texas are virus patients.

That is very worrisome...

Texas deaths now starting to increase along with infections.  Will probably be 80+ today.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6423 on: July 07, 2020, 07:39:40 PM »
I think the easiest way to form an opinion is pretty simple, if a Republican (or Democrat) proposes it, it's really bad, stupid, inane, and evil, but if a Democrat (or Republican) proposes it, it's a great idea.  You run into problems when a Republican governor proposes it and then a Democratic governor from a neighboring state proposes the same thing.

Then you blame it on the media, or somebody else.
god, this is so real it makes my head hurt.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6424 on: July 07, 2020, 07:43:20 PM »

There is no question schools need to open. The thought around these parts is that they will open, and rotate between students and the days they attend. Student A would go to school MWF for one week, and TR the next.

There is also talk of a 365 day school year, but try that moving that one on the teachers. I've already heard rumblings of a strike if the district tries to implement. But hey, it's all about the children!!
I am actually a fan of year round school.

Instead of getting like 12 weeks off every summer, kids typically get like three six week breaks.  Plus it is proven to help older kids with burnout, and it is great for stopping "summer loss".

Still 180 days of school.  It's been implemented at various places around the country with great success.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6425 on: July 07, 2020, 08:52:37 PM »
The American Academy of Pediatrics and Dr Fauci both say that schools should be reopened.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/us/aap-kids-physically-in-school-wellness-trnd/index.html

If you claim to listen to the experts (doctors and the leading national governmental authority on infectious disease), I think you might want to dig in on this one a little more.
I totally understand this.  But look at it - look at the reasons keeping kids at home is problematic:  lack of socialization, physical/sexual abuse, depression/suicide.....all from being in a broken home environment.  
That's disturbing, isn't it?  We're just chalking up these things as the reality of the situation, so let's get them to school to avoid these things.  

That's one side of it.  I understand kids being in school benefits them, but the real-world, inevitable downside of it matters, too.  Here, I'm switching from the macro, wide-lense statistical view to the focused, daily life, small-sample view.
My school is around 1,000 students.  Are any of them going to die?  Probably not, but maybe 1 or 2?  Okay, so maybe a student dies.  
Those 1,000 students probably live with 2-3,000 family members, many of which are old.  How many of them are going to die?

It's horrible either way is what I'm saying.  But hey, hopefully the pervy uncle sexually abusing a kid gets Covid and dies, huh?
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