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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6006 on: June 29, 2020, 08:59:44 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 28, 2020, 06:23:52 PM
to swab yourself is that just touching the inside of your mouth or do you have to go way up your nose?
Just in the nose.



https://www.cvs.com/minuteclinic/covid-19-testing?icid=cvs-home-hero1-link2-coronavirus-testing
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6007 on: June 29, 2020, 10:30:51 AM »
after having a swab stuck up my nose until it nearly pierced my brain, I'd guess most folks doing this for themselves are not going deep enough

perhaps this doesn't affect the testing, but I guess it does 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6008 on: June 29, 2020, 10:40:53 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 29, 2020, 10:30:51 AM
after having a swab stuck up my nose until it nearly pierced my brain, I'd guess most folks doing this for themselves are not going deep enough

perhaps this doesn't affect the testing, but I guess it does
The early tests were very deep, the current ones are not.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6009 on: June 29, 2020, 10:42:09 AM »
I'm surprised there isn't much talk of the virus and cigarette smoking or other factors that may cause more severe illness, hospitalization, ventilator use, death.

is it because there is no pattern to the stats?  or do decades of smoking just not really cause more problems?  or is the tobacco lobby too strong?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6010 on: June 29, 2020, 10:42:53 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 29, 2020, 10:40:53 AM
The early tests were very deep, the current ones are not.
so, a little snot on a tissue is enough?

that is good
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6011 on: June 29, 2020, 10:49:40 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 29, 2020, 10:42:09 AM
I'm surprised there isn't much talk of the virus and cigarette smoking or other factors that may cause more severe illness, hospitalization, ventilator use, death.

is it because there is no pattern to the stats?  or do decades of smoking just not really cause more problems?  or is the tobacco lobby too strong?

I've seen that cited repeatedly as a comorbidity.  I think it's so obvious that it isn't dwelled upon as much.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6012 on: June 29, 2020, 10:54:36 AM »
I quit smoking the occasional cigar on the golf course when COVID broke in March

my friends that do smoke cigarettes haven't seemed to cut down at all.

I haven't heard warnings from doctors or politicians or "experts" about increased risk because of smoking.

all stats are regarding age

it does seem obvious to me, but I've also heard from some smokers that they've seen "studies" that tell that smokers aren't at more risk because the virus likes to attach to something in the lungs that is already damaged by smoking.  Probably some misinformation IMO.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6013 on: June 29, 2020, 11:09:23 AM »
The amount of obvious misinformation I see on FB is nearing record levels for a topic.

I've seen memes claiming that wearing a mask for more than X minutes can cause asphyxiation and possibly death.  One person today had confused the antibody test with the infection test.  I imagine smokers will always have excuses, "My uncle smoked for 60 years and lived to be 90."

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6014 on: June 29, 2020, 11:21:09 AM »
I've cut back on the cigars, but not as a result of the virus. Just wanted to.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6015 on: June 29, 2020, 11:24:37 AM »
So last week was interesting from the daily deaths perspective.


  • Tue/Weds were marginally higher than, or equal to, the previous week's daily total.
  • Thurs/Fri/Saturday were about 10% (Thur/Fri) or 15% (Sat) lower than the previous week's daily total.
  • Sunday was an uptick, of only about 5%, from the previous Sunday.

As a result, the 7-day moving average only declined about 6% from June 21 to June 28. 

For comparison, here's the 7-day moving average declines:

  • June 14->June 21: 19%
  • June 7-> June 14: 11%
  • May 31-> June 7: 13%
  • May 24->May 31: 17%
  • May 17->May 24: 19%
  • May 10->May 17: 16%
  • May 3->May 10: 8%

So the next week will tell us a lot about where this thing is actually headed. Hopefully it will still be a decline, even if it is a shallow one.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6016 on: June 29, 2020, 11:45:45 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 29, 2020, 08:59:44 AM
Just in the nose.



https://www.cvs.com/minuteclinic/covid-19-testing?icid=cvs-home-hero1-link2-coronavirus-testing

Each state is different, it's not as easy for everyone else...




I went online to schedule an appointment, had to fill out a questionaire honestly, and am SOL.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6017 on: June 29, 2020, 11:46:36 AM »
This is why there are 10+ hour lines at free testing locations (non-CVS).  It's hard to tell poor people to pony up $100 unless they're symptomatic....
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6018 on: June 29, 2020, 11:52:15 AM »
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/georgia-testing-lack-of-free-accessibility/85-ce70d88b-17a8-4819-9a5b-792710212caf

The test is free in Georgia, but it can be problematic to get tested because apparently the "worker bees" don't know the process.

This is from last month, maybe it's all fixed now.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/covid-19-viral-and-antibody-testing-sites-in-east-point

For all sites, testing will be free for anyone without insurance as well as for people with Medicare or Medicaid. 

No appointment is needed, but you can pre-register here for faster testing. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6019 on: June 29, 2020, 11:57:42 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 29, 2020, 11:45:45 AM
Each state is different, it's not as easy for everyone else...




I went online to schedule an appointment, had to fill out a questionaire honestly, and am SOL.
Didn't you tell the internet that you've had a cough?

https://www.bing.com/maps?q=covid+testing+phoenix&cvid=18a26020d05f41a9af21be7e1fac2f79&FORM=ANAB01&PC=HCTS

My brother-in-law was tested yesterday, in Chandler. Said it was no problem at all.
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