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The number of confirmed coronavirus cases tied to a popular Michigan college bar has climbed to 85, according to reports.

Local health officials are now advising those who visited Harper's Restaurant and Brew Pub, near Michigan State University's campus in Lansing, between June 12 and June 22 to self-quarantine for 14 days and get tested for COVID-19.

“Cases linked to Harper's are currently at 85 total,” the Ingham County Health Department said on its Facebook page Saturday.

Eighty of the cases involve individuals who visited the bar and then tested positive, WLIX-TV reported. Most of those infected have only shown mild symptoms. At least 10 have been asymptomatic.

College students without masks could be seen in photos on social media crowded together on a line to get into Harper's after the bar reopened June 12 when Michigan eased coronavirus restrictions that had shuttered bars and restaurants for three months.

The Detroit Free Press reported Sunday that 30 new COVID-19 cases 100 miles away in affluent Grosse Pointe have been linked to the Harper's outbreak.

According to the paper, an individual who went to Harper’s and became infected came in contact with a friend who held a huge house party in Grosse Pointe Woods, where dozens of friends partied without masks and social distancing.

That host was symptomatic during the party and became more ill over the weekend before being tested for COVID-19 on Monday. The next day, he shared that he was positive, according to the paper.





Damn kids. They are going to F this thing up for everyone else.

At CVS, you go to the drive-through and you then swab yourself. It's free with an insurance card and also for the uninsured (that bill will be paid for by taxpayers). There is no limit on the number of tests you can take.

My wife and I will alternate, every-other week.

to swab yourself is that just touching the inside of your mouth or do you have to go way up your nose?

There are two ways to leave a hospital.  Georgia is going ballistic now. 2,225 new cases yesterday.

Hosp. is up as well, not that steeply.  It may respond in a few more days though.

College students without masks could be seen in photos on social media crowded together on a line to get into Harper's after the bar reopened June 12 when Michigan eased coronavirus restrictions that had shuttered bars and restaurants for three months.


Damn kids. They are going to F this thing up for everyone else.

Perfect case of just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should.  Same with all of our rights - just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean you have to or should.

I can't figure what could be shut down that would help much. 

Indoor bars, indoor serving at restaurants, and indoor church services. It is hard on these businesses. But it will be very hard on the populace if we don't do so especially in hard hit areas.

The federal government could figure  something out for these types of businesses, so they don't go out of business, but doing so would require more brain power than I have tonight. I just know something could be done to help, if Iowa's grain farmers can be subsidized in order to wage a trade war. It requires thought, but it is not that difficult.

What would you close now, if you could, to try and limit this thing?

Riots.