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Cincydawg

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4872 on: June 05, 2020, 05:36:58 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 05, 2020, 05:23:49 PM
The police do whatever they want to whoever they want. As someone who appears to have money- I learned this the hard way through many many many interactions with police. Any interaction with police is like rolling the dice- they literally do whatever they want and get away with it.
The evidence is that they don't get away with it often anyway.  The police who pushed that old man were suspended.

I've had a fair number of interactions with police, LEOs, and of those, one was a bit bizarre.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4873 on: June 05, 2020, 05:38:19 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 05, 2020, 05:36:13 PM
Drugs companies spend almost nothing on R&D. Most spend 5-10x what they do on r&d on MARKETING/Advertising.
In 2018, the pharmaceutical industry spent just under 180 billion U.S. dollars on research and development, which is an increase of over 10 billion compared to the previous year. By 2024, expenditures are expected to reach a total of over 210 billion U.S. dollars.

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2013/05/23/another_look_at_marketing_vs_rd_in_pharma

https://www.thepharmaletter.com/article/us-pharma-slammed-over-marketing-vs-r-d
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4874 on: June 05, 2020, 05:39:12 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 05, 2020, 05:35:19 PM
yes two officers were suspended for this but this is far from the norm

police do not brutalize peaceful protesters
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All 57 of the members of the Buffalo Police Department's Emergency Response Team resigned Friday from the unit which responds to riots and other crowd control situations, the president of the union that represents Buffalo police officers told The Buffalo News.

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The union representing Buffalo police officers told its rank and file members Friday that the union would no longer pay for legal fees to defend police officers related to the protests which began Saturday in downtown Buffalo and have continued on and off, according to one source. The union is upset with the treatment of the two officers who were suspended Thursday.
"Our position is these officers were simply following orders from Deputy Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia to clear the square," said Buffalo Police Benevolent Association President John Evans. "It doesn't specify clear the square of men, 50 and under or 15 to 40. They were simply doing their job. I don't know how much contact was made. He did slip in my estimation. He fell backwards."
It's okay. They were just following orders. That's always been an airtight defense.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4875 on: June 05, 2020, 05:40:02 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 05, 2020, 05:36:58 PM
The evidence is that they don't get away with it often anyway.  The police who pushed that old man were suspended.
Suspended... You mean administrative leave with pay until this blows over?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4876 on: June 05, 2020, 05:40:10 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 05, 2020, 05:36:58 PM
The evidence is that they don't get away with it often anyway.  The police who pushed that old man were suspended.

I've had a fair number of interactions with police, LEOs, and of those, one was a bit bizarre.
They get suspended with pay or fired. That’s the worst that ever happens to them. Literally 99% of the time they never get prosecuted or punished. 

They beat the living shit out of me once, for no reason, and nothing happened to them.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4877 on: June 05, 2020, 05:42:29 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 05, 2020, 05:35:19 PM
yes two officers were suspended for this but this is far from the norm

police do not brutalize peaceful protesters
Lol. That is the norm. And wake up- they are beating the shit out of people just protesting. The cops are scum. The entire culture is rotten to the core. It’s not a few bad apples. It’s a bunch of rotten ones and a few good apples. Most cops suck at their jobs. The really intelligent and honest people who join the police either burn out, succumb to the culture, of leave. It’s not a breeding ground that attracts or keep the brightest and best.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4878 on: June 05, 2020, 05:44:34 PM »
That has not been my experience with LEOs, at all, not even remotely.

Of course, I'm white, so there is that.

And I chat briefly with some almost daily, at least until these protests cropped up.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4879 on: June 05, 2020, 05:44:42 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 05, 2020, 05:42:29 PM
Lol. That is the norm. And wake up- they are beating the shit out of people just protesting. The cops are scum. The entire culture is rotten to the core. It’s not a few bad apples. It’s a bunch of rotten ones and a few good apples. Most cops suck at their jobs. The really intelligent and honest people who join the police either burn out, succumb to the culture, of leave. It’s not a breeding ground that attracts or keep the brightest and best.
Mdot21 have you met OAM

you two should go out and have a beer together
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4880 on: June 05, 2020, 05:51:47 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 05, 2020, 05:44:42 PM
Mdot21 have you met OAM

you two should go out and have a beer together
I do think if we all went out and had a beer together, there might be spirited discussion but we'd all get along just fine.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4881 on: June 05, 2020, 05:58:41 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on June 05, 2020, 05:51:47 PM
I do think if we all went out and had a beer together, there might be spirited discussion but we'd all get along just fine.
well sure we have something that goes way beyond red or blue or even race

we all have a great love of college football

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4882 on: June 05, 2020, 06:52:32 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on June 05, 2020, 05:51:47 PM
I do think if we all went out and had a beer together, there might be spirited discussion but we'd all get along just fine.
As long as it was good beer. Bud Light and I'm cussing everyone
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4883 on: June 05, 2020, 07:19:09 PM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on June 05, 2020, 05:35:19 PM
yes two officers were suspended for this but this is far from the norm

police do not brutalize peaceful protesters
Sir, that man tripped. That's what the police said. 

(I suppose it depends what brutalize means. They do seem to be assaulting people at a a pretty good clip these days. Sometimes even stealing from them. And it's safe to assume the one we have video of are likely not the majority of them)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4884 on: June 05, 2020, 07:27:37 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 05, 2020, 05:44:42 PM
Mdot21 have you met OAM

you two should go out and have a beer together
We could send them out on riot control - afterall how tough could it be?They could share a car like Reed & Malloy in ADAM 12
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4885 on: June 05, 2020, 07:38:15 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on June 05, 2020, 06:52:32 PM
As long as it was good beer. Bud Light and I'm cussing everyone
Well, I am reminded of the times my college buddies who moved to Redondo Beach after Purdue and I would hang out... 

We'd get back to their place after the bars closed at 1 AM, and then we got into "one more beer" mode... I.e. we'd sit there bullshittin' for hours, just having "one more beer" which was like 5-6 over several more hours. 

That was only possible because "one more beer" mode was handled with Miller Lite. If it'd been my usual IPAs I might have been comatose.
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