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Mdot21

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4858 on: June 05, 2020, 04:27:15 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 05, 2020, 04:08:06 PM
Germany probably has the best health care system in Europe, based on my conversations with people I know in Europe.

Ours is damn good too.
It’s the greatest in the world if you’ve got money. 

If not, uh oh.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4859 on: June 05, 2020, 04:30:42 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 05, 2020, 03:38:20 PM
I think it was about as bad as the hype, if you look at the mainstream hype.  Had we not taken aggressive measures here, the death toll would have been higher obviously, probably 150,000 or more.  We arguably could have responded differently, I've come to think the face mask is much more effective than we thought in March.  And of course the clock is still running on this, we're by no means over it and won't be until an effective safe vaccine is widely employed.

I'm curious as to how Germany has done so well in this, I've read a few "analyses" that were unconvincing and politically oriented.

I think the Asian nations have managed because they are used to this sort of thing and wearing a mask is common.
Some are also considerably more flexible when it comes to rights. Not in the good way. 
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Mdot21

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4860 on: June 05, 2020, 04:32:33 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 05, 2020, 04:30:42 PM
Some are also considerably more flexible when it comes to rights. Not in the good way.
This lol. 

Although I’m starting to question our rights here as police brutalize peaceful protestors and people just walking down the street all over this country at the moment.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4861 on: June 05, 2020, 04:44:30 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 05, 2020, 04:27:15 PM
It’s the greatest in the world if you’ve got money.

If not, uh oh.
This is one of many problems that needs fixing here. I'm not for government-run healthcare at all (see the VA), but we really need to get the costs of Rx in line. I understand companies spend a ton of money on research, but I also know much of that research is government-funded too.

My wife ran out of her blood pressure medicine down here, as we stayed longer than planned. She went to fill it at CVS (ahead of the scheduled time) and insurance would not cover. $800.00.

She pays $10 for a 90 day normally. Needless to say, I had my brother UPS her supply to her, so she only missed one day.
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Mdot21

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4862 on: June 05, 2020, 04:48:18 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 05, 2020, 04:44:30 PM
This is one of many problems that needs fixing here. I'm not for government-run healthcare at all (see the VA), but we really need to get the costs of Rx in line. I understand companies spend a ton of money on research, but I also know much of that research is government-funded too.

My wife ran out of her blood pressure medicine down here, as we stayed longer than planned. She went to fill it at CVS (ahead of the scheduled time) and insurance would not cover. $800.00.

She pays $10 for a 90 day normally. Needless to say, I had my brother UPS her supply to her, so she only missed one day.
Those companies spend more money on advertising than they do R&D. By an order of magnitude of several factors. And that is criminal.

Every other major developed country in the free world has figured out health care. Except us.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4863 on: June 05, 2020, 05:05:41 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 05, 2020, 04:32:33 PM
This lol.

Although I’m starting to question our rights here as police brutalize peaceful protestors and people just walking down the street all over this country at the moment.
Well, much like healthcare, the police tend not to do that...

...if you've got money. (Or appear to).
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4864 on: June 05, 2020, 05:23:49 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on June 05, 2020, 05:05:41 PM
Well, much like healthcare, the police tend not to do that...

...if you've got money. (Or appear to).
The police do whatever they want to whoever they want. As someone who appears to have money- I learned this the hard way through many many many interactions with police. Any interaction with police is like rolling the dice- they literally do whatever they want and get away with it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4865 on: June 05, 2020, 05:25:53 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 05, 2020, 04:32:33 PM
This lol.

Although I’m starting to question our rights here as police brutalize peaceful protestors and people just walking down the street all over this country at the moment.
what are you talking about
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4866 on: June 05, 2020, 05:28:28 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 05, 2020, 05:25:53 PM
what are you talking about
Is your head in the sand or are you living under a rock?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4867 on: June 05, 2020, 05:29:49 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 05, 2020, 05:28:28 PM
Is your head in the sand or are you living under a rock?
are you talking about some specific thing that has happened today or are you just generalizing
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4868 on: June 05, 2020, 05:29:54 PM »
I have step-family in France, and I would note they complain about their health care system quite a bit.  Two cousins are MDs.

From what I can tell, they have pretty competent doctors in the main.

One issue is that the US market potentiates new drug development, companies know they can get a lot of money here for a new drug, and then sell it elsewhere for a fraction of the cost because the US covers their nut, so to speak.

If you cut out those monies for new drugs from the US, you cut costs, but you likely also cut research into new medications.  One thing I learn from TV is just how many medications are now available for maladies I didn't know existed.

"NEW Flumoxiril!  Shown to treat manipotitis with 96% effectiveness!!!  Caution, taking Flumoxiril may cause digestive failure, kidney stones, impotence, cancer of the brain, and Alzheimer's.  Talk to YOUR doctor to see if  Flumoxiril is right for you!!!"

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4869 on: June 05, 2020, 05:31:42 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 05, 2020, 05:29:49 PM
are you talking about some specific thing that has happened today or are you just generalizing

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1268910446414790658?s=20
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4870 on: June 05, 2020, 05:35:19 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 05, 2020, 05:31:42 PM

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1268910446414790658?s=20
yes two officers were suspended for this but this is far from the norm

police do not brutalize peaceful protesters
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4871 on: June 05, 2020, 05:36:13 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 05, 2020, 05:29:54 PM
I have step-family in France, and I would note they complain about their health care system quite a bit.  Two cousins are MDs.

From what I can tell, they have pretty competent doctors in the main.

One issue is that the US market potentiates new drug development, companies know they can get a lot of money here for a new drug, and then sell it elsewhere for a fraction of the cost because the US covers their nut, so to speak.

If you cut out those monies for new drugs from the US, you cut costs, but you likely also cut research into new medications.  One thing I learn from TV is just how many medications are now available for maladies I didn't know existed.

"NEW Flumoxiril!  Shown to treat manipotitis with 96% effectiveness!!!  Caution, taking Flumoxiril may cause digestive failure, kidney stones, impotence, cancer of the brain, and Alzheimer's.  Talk to YOUR doctor to see if  Flumoxiril is right for you!!!"
Who doesn’t complain about their health care system? Every country does it. 

I would say that having a healthcare system- any system- where everybody is covered and no one has to file for bankruptcy and be financially ruined over medical costs is better than what we currently have. 

Drugs companies spend almost nothing on R&D. Most spend 5-10x what they do on r&d on MARKETING/Advertising.
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