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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4368 on: May 28, 2020, 12:23:36 PM »
I don't think this is a typical UE situation. 

I'm of the opinion that most of our UE is temporary.  Most people will get their jobs back once things start to reopen. 

HOWEVER, not everyone will get their jobs back.  This "long term unemployment" would be more comparable with your link.  I don't think we have quite peaked there yet.
Much of this depends on what certain states decide to do, and when. If people weren't wearing masks, you wouldn't know a pandemic exists here in Florida.

Things are going to look much different, to me, when I go back to Illinois next week. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4369 on: May 28, 2020, 12:30:37 PM »
Investors are anticipating a V-shaped recovery.  That in itself is a hopeful sign.  Whether they are right or not, I can't say.  I'm pretty sure the markets will drop back for a few days soonish.  

The Fed and the government have pumped enormous unprecedented liquidity into the economy, and in that scenario, would you rather own assets like stocks, or bonds?  Or cash?




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4370 on: May 28, 2020, 12:45:57 PM »
Punch some one in the face!  I have to say- I busted out laughing seeing that from you.  😂
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4371 on: May 28, 2020, 12:55:14 PM »
Much of this depends on what certain states decide to do, and when. If people weren't wearing masks, you wouldn't know a pandemic exists here in Florida.

Things are going to look much different, to me, when I go back to Illinois next week.
I can't imagine Florida will bounce back 100% with tourism drastically reduced.  Even so, I can't imagine Florida being effected as much as the Northeast. 

PA numbers are looking great and getting better every day.  Hopefully I'm wrong about the long term stuff

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4372 on: May 28, 2020, 01:08:56 PM »
Disney is opening soon (not in California). People will go.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4373 on: May 28, 2020, 01:13:28 PM »
The entire mainstream media is a joke. It blows my mind that the people in the media cannot see this. It’s why when Trump attacks them and calls them fake news it lands. It actually lands with a vast majority of the public.

I'd assume they do, or at least see that they're seen this way.

But considering the sort of irrationality of media criticism in general (doing it it's difficult and takes time and focus and no one does it), I'd assume they're caught in a vice of having no real way out. (The fake news thing landing for a vast majority seems like a stretch, but whatever).

Basically, people like to complain. And they'll focus on the thing that gets their dander up most. And if someone tamps down the thing that bothers them, lets say starts crapping on the NY gov and aggressively publishing how the numbers Florida is putting out look good, then the complaints will just migrate. Part of the experience of consuming media and lamenting it is taking a massive undertaking, literally multiple times the number of hours of the day in content, and reducing it to a feeling that often bases on a few chyrons or headlines of articles we don't read in much depth. 

Michigan grad and Vox writer Jane Coaston summed it up rather nicely: Again, there is no more deeply felt, bipartisan view than “everyone is very unfair to us and very nice to our opposition.”

So if one doesn't like the media, then consume as little of it as possible. It'll still creep in, but minimize it. And when one does, look for outlets you trust and ride with them. If those don't exist, then why are you consuming in the first place? (Unless some of the joy is in the complaining, which would be my theory for a lot of it)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4374 on: May 28, 2020, 01:47:44 PM »
I don't think anyone sensible thinks this recovery will "bounce back all the way" and quickly.  But, if you have funds to invest, where do you put the funds? If you bought "X" because it's PE was 30 before the crash and interest rates were 3%, what do you do when interest rates are under 1%?  The stock is worth more in comparison.

This is probably a good time for some version of dollar cost averaging.

It will take conventions and air travel for Atlanta to recover 90%.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4375 on: May 28, 2020, 01:50:22 PM »
Disney is opening soon (not in California). People will go.
Of course they will.

The experience before involved hot weather, crowds, mewling children, sky-high prices and spawned an industry of bars so mom and dad could drink away some of the stress of the visit. 

If you're willing to go through all that, a disease that's only potentially deadly won't stop you. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4376 on: May 28, 2020, 01:57:09 PM »
Yeah, I took my three to Disney World .... once.  They didn't ask to go back either.  And it wasn't a disaster, just hot, crowded, expensive, and not really fun.  We'd go to the park near Cincy each year for free anyway, it was sufficient.  King's Island.  When they got old enough, they went there on their own without me, if they wanted.

There is this French beach resort in South Carolina that two of them liked.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4377 on: May 28, 2020, 01:59:00 PM »
My i s c & a aggie wife keeps trying to plan a trip to Disney World.  The kids like the idea but aren't insisting on it. I have zero desire to go and keep squashing it.  

The Coronas might be my final solution for ending this potential trip once and for all.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4378 on: May 28, 2020, 02:06:23 PM »
My i s c & a aggie wife keeps trying to plan a trip to Disney World.  The kids like the idea but aren't insisting on it. I have zero desire to go and keep squashing it. 

The Coronas might be my final solution for ending this potential trip once and for all.

I got dragged there a couple years ago. Though Disney without the throngs of people in it might be...nice? 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4379 on: May 28, 2020, 02:12:51 PM »
I was tempted to take the wife to Epcot to see the French pavilion, but didn't.  I did take her finally to the Biltmore House.  She liked the gardens, and Asheville in general.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4380 on: May 28, 2020, 02:30:01 PM »
Some of my fondest memories come from taking the wife my 4 year old boy and my 8 year old daughter to Disney World

If you decide to visit Disney World bring money and lots of it
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4381 on: May 28, 2020, 02:33:22 PM »
I would pay money NOT to go if somehow I otherwise had to, same with all those other "attractions" down there.  Our fantasy baseball was in Orlando before and some families would go while we were playing.  The wife has been to Euro Disney.  You see signs for it on the freeway from 50 km away as if it was a city or town.

I'd rather go to Vegas and see the Eiffel Tower.

 

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